Tarw Coch
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Plans can changeI asked this exact question in one of the recorded Q&A sessions and Janet replied that there were no plans to use an outside organisation like Red Tractor to monitor and inspect.
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Plans can changeI asked this exact question in one of the recorded Q&A sessions and Janet replied that there were no plans to use an outside organisation like Red Tractor to monitor and inspect.
And I'm quite sure when she said it, it was true, and sincerely meant.I asked this exact question in one of the recorded Q&A sessions and Janet replied that there were no plans to use an outside organisation like Red Tractor to monitor and inspect.
No Reason none of us cant pay them by BACS for ever.I’ve just remembered that SAI don’t take cheques any more. No doubt to try to encourage us to fall into their DD trap.
So we pay them by BACS.
Her name is Janet.Let's hope dear Janet can give you those cast iron assurances next week!
No doubt to try to encourage us to fall into their DD trap.
It will amount about to £130-150/ha when everything is added in.Why bother with ELMS at all ? It's bugger all money ?
£52 per acre. Bugger all.It will amount about to £130-150/ha when everything is added in.
At the moment that's 250 kilos of Barley an acre ,I think you might lose far more than that if you sign up to everything to get that amount of ELMS payments£52 per acre. Bugger all.
Don't trust them either...DEFRA already have loads of inspectors trained up, so surely they will just be using those?
Have you any reason at all to believe that RT will be involved, or just paranoia?
At the moment that's 250 kilos of Barley an acre ,I think you might lose far more than that if you sign up to everything to get that amount of ELMS payments
The issue that @Janet Hughes Defra has now is this:
- They have amended the arable standards (having accepted that there is no public good in subbing one form of crop establishment over others) such that anyone growing an arable crop is now eligible.
- Having done this, they have had to reduce the payment rates per Ha, as otherwise there wont be enough money to go round.
- These rates are now so low that it's not worth the aggravation.
- The only way out of this, the thing that Defra should have understood from the outset and now really do need to acknowledge, is that there should be no area payments on arable land.
Ploughing should be taxedThe issue that @Janet Hughes Defra has now is this:
- They have amended the arable standards (having accepted that there is no public good in subbing one form of crop establishment over others) such that anyone growing an arable crop is now eligible.
- Having done this, they have had to reduce the payment rates per Ha, as otherwise there wont be enough money to go round.
- These rates are now so low that it's not worth the aggravation.
- The only way out of this, the thing that Defra should have understood from the outset and now really do need to acknowledge, is that there should be no area payments on arable land.
It already is by the diesel needed to plough and then power Harrow it..Ploughing should be taxed
no chanceIf you were in government up to your eyes in debt what would you do, why wouldn't they use Red Tractor as they already make farm inspections all paid for by our gullible selves, won't happen immediately they need to get everyone signed up & committed first!
my plan for a renewal of stewardship is more than £70 and acre but would then exclude us from growing osr till 2029I wouldn't be so sure. DEFRA have suggested that the 'subbing of DD' will be in the advanced arable standards, so presumably paying a larger amount of money.
Our (Welsh) SFP is only £65/ac now. I'm already doing most of what would tick the SFI boxes, and wouldn't have to change much to tick the rest. IF we ended up with the same scheme, I'd not be too upset to get £52/ac, on top of various grant schemes and other support packages.
It could be a lot worse tbh.
I wouldn't be so sure. DEFRA have suggested that the 'subbing of DD' will be in the advanced arable standards, so presumably paying a larger amount of money.
Please explain this statementPloughing should be taxed
I was stirring. As someone else said it’s already expensive to do.Please explain this statement