Employee time keeping

manhill

Member
It's the thin end of the wedge

Must be getting harder to be a criminal these days, everything is gathering data on you. There's Fitbit gathering your health data, smart meters looking at your elec usage, mobile phone logging God knows what, credit cards, debit cards telling on your shopping preferences. BBC wants to know your likes, ANPR watching your driving. Now they want to implant you. Jeeeze I don't know, crime is not such a good career these days! Have to become a hermit to escape all this s##t.
 

manhill

Member
Must be getting harder to be a criminal these days, everything is gathering data on you. There's Fitbit gathering your health data, smart meters looking at your elec usage, mobile phone logging God knows what, credit cards, debit cards telling on your shopping preferences. BBC wants to know your likes, ANPR watching your driving. Now they want to implant you. Jeeeze I don't know, crime is not such a good career these days! Have to become a hermit to escape all this s##t.

Now that frigging Hotel Trevago Sheila has just been on the box to annoy me even more.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
The last place I was employed put in a clocking in machine and it was only me employed, my paid hours went up by a minimum of 10hours a week, it didn’t take lunch break and coffee time out so I was up with them. Also if going to a meeting or for parts 3-4 hours away I often wouldn’t write them down, when I was clocked in I was clocked in!
Clocking in machines also don’t like it when you start at 7am, work through until 2am and back in at 6am. It can’t work out what day is what so you end up writing them in manually on the sheet, but have it printed on incase there’s any doubt of fiddling.

Personally I found it a nuisance, I could see the bonus for a big company but a few men it was pointless. Other farms I’ve worked on which are much bigger, the irregular hours have never been brought up as the work was always been completed very efficiently, often doing more output due to starting early before anyone else is awake.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Even though we pay salary it would still be useful to record hours


not to check up on anyone but more as a management tool to help me cost operations more accurately - an app to do that would be really useful IMO

Not sure why the OP is being critisised , it's a perfectly legitimate thing for a employer to ask or do
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
How do other people work it when at home but on call? When i ran drier, i was in and out every half hour or so to check it and keep wheat over pit, but wasn't really working.
Exactly, or what do you do when you have a nroso meeting for the benefit of the employer ? I used to put holidays down on those days or i wouldn’t get them or the holidays.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Exactly, or what do you do when you have a nroso meeting for the benefit of the employer ? I used to put holidays down on those days or i wouldn’t get them or the holidays.

NRoSO and going to shows, training course etc to collect points should be regular working hours surely

re the dryer if not on a salary the way other industries would deal with it would be to pay a "on call" rate at 50% etc of regular hours for all the time you might be expected to go in and sort or check something
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
NRoSO and going to shows etc to collect points should be regular working hours surely
Probably but how does 1 clock in/out if their house and destination is nowhere near the place of work? I found it easier just to put them down as holidays.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Probably but how does 1 clock in/out if their house and destination is nowhere near the place of work? I found it easier just to put them down as holidays.

clock on when you leave to go and clock off when you get home - if your not at home and being asked to do something your boss asked you to then you are at work

also charge mileage at 45p / mile (tax free)

pretty normal for a lot of peoples jobs who don't have a fixed place of work
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
clock on when you leave to go and clock off when you get home - if your not at hime and being asked to do something your boss asked you to then you are at work

also charge mileage at 45p / mile (tax free)

pretty normal for lot of peoples jobs who don't have a fixed place of work
But when the clocking in card machine is in the boot room at work it isn’t so easy?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
But when the clocking in card machine is in the boot room at work it isn’t so easy?

true but that's not your problem if you boss is asking you to work away from base how he check that is his issue

In this day and age there are tech solutions if its big and regular issue though I expect but surely a little bit of 2 way trust isn't a lot to ask

Personally I wouldn't employee anyone I didn't feel I could trust 100%


............ but maybe that why I haven't been able to find a replacement for my guy that has just left, no one seems good enough !
 
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Location
southwest
very easy to set up an NFC system with plastic door cards or even small embedded NFC tags surgically inserted under your employees' skin

I think everyone should have a unique embedded NFC tag, I'm fed up of having to carry an Oyster card for the tube, a door card to get into the building at work, another card to use the printer, and of course several debit and credit cards

everyone should have one embedded tag and your whole life is encoded onto that one unique tag and it does everything, just like that disc thingy that all the characters in Tron had to carry around with them

Don't agree with having a tag under your skin. Anyone asks me to do that, I'll tell to stick it up their arse!
 

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