end of cross compliance hedges 2024

[Zippy768]

Yes, just got a couple of fields with turnips in that we won't finish grazing till March, dont need to trample them down with cutter in Feb now.

Also thinking about ipm2 flower rich grass margin, 2-3m against bottom of hedge including the old cross compliance stip wouldn't be that much of sacrifice for £798/ha

I was thinking the same thing about ipm2 around field edges. Makes alot of sense without the 1metre cross compliance

 

[dogandstick]

Cross Compliance has NOT ended in Wales

And for info, under SFS to be introduced hedges that are to be counted towards your 10% habitat must be:

- either 1.5m high x 2m wide OR 2m high x 1.5m wide
- and must be stock proof without any artificial fencing
- any hedge entered in to the scheme must meet the above criteria by 2030 regardless of when you enter the scheme

The loons are free, Maurice. Fire up the catch nets

Open to interpretation. Must be capable of stopping stock in its own right i.e. thick bottom, not full of holes at the bottom doesn’t mean there can’t be a fence there surely. Otherwise it would result in miles of fences grant aided under agri-environment schemes getting ripped up.

won’t hold my breath though

 

[Hindsight]

Are we okay to pull hedges out now or not?

If not an ironic joke - have a read. If an ironic joke you caught me hook, line and sinker.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a817aee40f0b6230269788e/hedgerow__guide_part_1.pdf

 

[serf]

Are we okay to pull hedges out now or not?

Fine , just get one of these tho cos some of these old hedges are a bit stubborn

 

[Hindsight]

This mornings Today programme Radio 4. Piece on hedges. 2hours 22 minutes

Today - 31/01/2024 - BBC Sounds

News and current affairs, including Sports Desk, Weather and Thought for the Day.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ollie82]

What does that mean stockproof without artificial fencing?

It does say the hedges should be stock proof regardless of whether they are Fenced or not. My understanding is that you can double fence them.

 

[MRT]

So how do u make it stockproof then?

Hang a post around the neck of any sheep that escapes, then they can't push through. That's what my grandfather used to do anyway. Still using the fencing but in an inventive way!

 

[The Arable Farmer]

So no more hedge cutting season? I can continue cracking on in March this year?

 

[Wombat]

So no more hedge cutting season? I can continue cracking on in March this year?

Until everyone takes the pee and it becomes Nov to Jan

 

[Wombat]

Think the wildlife charities were pushing for October to Jan only in the consultation to see what became law

 

[GOODYSMATE]

View attachment 1161823Fine , just get one of these tho cos some of these old hedges are a bit stubborn

You wont get one of them at moment they are all busy ripping up roads in France

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Cross Compliance has NOT ended in Wales

And for info, under SFS to be introduced hedges that are to be counted towards your 10% habitat must be:

- either 1.5m high x 2m wide OR 2m high x 1.5m wide
- and must be stock proof without any artificial fencing
- any hedge entered in to the scheme must meet the above criteria by 2030 regardless of when you enter the scheme

The loons are free, Maurice. Fire up the catch nets

Do I take it that the Welsh Assembly have just effectively banned hedge laying in Wales then?

 

[dogandstick]

Do I take it that the Welsh Assembly have just effectively banned hedge laying in Wales then?

No- read the proposals not the Chinese whispers on here.

 

[strawturner]

Countryside hedgerows: protection and management

Find out if you can remove or work on countryside hedgerows.

www.gov.uk

 

[neilo]

Thats fwcking nuts! And I lay hedges for a living

And that is what will carry on being done (grant aided) to make hedges thick and stockproof.

To be fair, at least RPW have, for the first time, recognised that a thick bottomed hedge is better for wildlife, rather than a tall, straggly one cut every 3 years. That's some progress at least.

They have also said that they might have to rethink their definition of stock proof...

 

[Bald Rick]

And that is what will carry on being done (grant aided) to make hedges thick and stockproof.

To be fair, at least RPW have, for the first time, recognised that a thick bottomed hedge is better for wildlife, rather than a tall, straggly one cut every 3 years. That's some progress at least.

They have also said that they might have to rethink their definition of stock proof...

Policy is being formulated by the NGOs such as RSPB and the Wildlife Trust.
Farmers are just supernumerary to the scheme.
They are jizzing themselves at what they perceive they'll do at the "collaborative level" under SFS

 

[Tubbylew]

And that is what will carry on being done (grant aided) to make hedges thick and stockproof.

To be fair, at least RPW have, for the first time, recognised that a thick bottomed hedge is better for wildlife, rather than a tall, straggly one cut every 3 years. That's some progress at least.

They have also said that they might have to rethink their definition of stock proof...

Yeah, I'm not knocking it in a way, and sure a good thick hedge is marvellous, but it's worth bearing in mind that glastir funding in wales for hedgelaying is £5.53 per meter, over the border here it is £19.34 per meter.

 

[colhonk]

Have ANY of the people who made up these SFI rules ever been in or to the country side, obviously never asked people who live and work there.

 

[davidroberts30]

Have ANY of the people who made up these SFI rules ever been in or to the country side, obviously never asked people who live and work there.

shhh some college kid took ages to work that plan out

 

[Post Driver]

Any updates on this?

If checks are done for nesting birds, landowners are ok to trim hedges for another week or 2 without taking the Micky?