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[Aspiring Peasants]

Brexit led to 14% fall in UK exports to EU in 2021, trade figures say | Brexit | The Guardian​

Goods and services exported to bloc affected by return of customs border, EU commissioner says

amp.theguardian.com

What about 2022?

 

[Muck Spreader]

Ah... I hadn't read the link, just looked at the pic.

What you write is odd, because UK nationals don't need a visa to go to the ROI, we have the FTA.

I think if you are engaging in political activity you do need a visa to visit.

 

[Muck Spreader]

What about 2022?

What about it, it's not over yet!

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

But the trend is upwards this year. With your one track mind you forget about the affect of COVID on international trade in 2020/2021

 

[Danllan]

I think if you are engaging in political activity you do need a visa to visit.

My knowledge of this area of law is minimal, but I have known a couple of people from the ROI who have stood for election here, one being elected as a Tory County Councillor, and I can't think of any mention of visas at all.

Just looked at the link below; as far as I recall, the rules between the UK and the ROI are entirely reciprocal, but I'm happy to be corrected on that:

https://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/electing-mps/candidates/

 

[nivilla1982]

Ah... I hadn't read the link, just looked at the pic.

What you write is odd, because UK nationals don't need a visa to go to the ROI, we have the FTA.

Common Travel Area!

 

[Danllan]

Common Travel Area!

Yep, distractions...

 

[Muck Spreader]

My knowledge of this area of law is minimal, but I have known a couple of people from the ROI who have stood for election here, one being elected as a Tory County Councillor, and I can't think of any mention of visas at all.

Just looked at the link below; as far as I recall, the rules between the UK and the ROI are entirely reciprocal, but I'm happy to be corrected on that:

https://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/electing-mps/candidates/

To be fair I can't see any reference to him ever being barred from entering the RoI. Which I would guess would have made the news due to his occasional anti-Irish comments. If it was, it must be one of the reasons below:

• Your entry or presence in Ireland could pose a threat to national security or be contrary to public policy
• You have come to Ireland for a different reason than you have given the immigration officer

It's interesting to see that a total foreigner could theoretically become a UK MP and ultimately PM. Can't imagine that is a possibility in many countries.

 

[nivilla1982]

To be fair I can't see any reference to him ever being barred from entering the RoI. Which I would guess would have made the news due to his occasional anti-Irish comments. If it was, it must be one of the reasons below:

• Your entry or presence in Ireland could pose a threat to national security or be contrary to public policy
• You have come to Ireland for a different reason than you have given the immigration officer

It's interesting to see that a total foreigner could theoretically become a UK MP and ultimately PM. Can't imagine that is a possibility in many countries.

To stand as a candidate in a UK Parliamentary General Election you need to be at least 18 years old and:

• a British citizen
• a citizen of the Republic of Ireland
• a citizen of a commonwealth country who does not require leave to enter or remain in the UK, or has indefinite leave to remain in the UK

 

[arcobob]

To stand as a candidate in a UK Parliamentary General Election you need to be at least 18 years old and:

• a British citizen
• a citizen of the Republic of Ireland
• a citizen of a commonwealth country who does not require leave to enter or remain in the UK, or has indefinite leave to remain in the UK

That could not be more straightforward. Whether one agrees is quite a different matter.

 

[Muck Spreader]

That could not be more straightforward. Whether one agrees is quite a different matter.

Could have been interesting to see what happened (if anything) if Nadhim Zahawi had won through to become PM as he is an Iraqi citizen as well as having a British passport.

 

[Widgetone]

Could have been interesting to see what happened (if anything) if Nadhim Zahawi had won through to become PM as he is an Iraqi citizen as well as having a British passport.

Allegedly his tax affairs, while legal, are a bit complicated as well.

 

[Danllan]

Could have been interesting to see what happened (if anything) if Nadhim Zahawi had won through to become PM as he is an Iraqi citizen as well as having a British passport.

Dual nationality, in jurisdictions that recognise it, means being treated entirely as a citizen of Country A while in it not having no recourse to Country B should anything untoward happen while in Country A. And, of course, vice versa.

However, it's entirely possible to have dual nationality recognised in e.g. the UK for a person who holds a passport from a second country that does not recognise it, such as Germany, Japan or Iran - hence recent fun with Tehran with people we regard as duals but they regard as solely Iranian.

All this is usually only applicable to adults, generally eighteen and over; younger than that and dual nationality is recognised by some, e.g. Germany and Japan, until the age when they require a final decision to be made.

 

[arcobob]

Could have been interesting to see what happened (if anything) if Nadhim Zahawi had won through to become PM as he is an Iraqi citizen as well as having a British passport.

Boris Johnson held US citizenship as well as Uk but dual citizenship is not part of the discussion. Iraq is not part of any special agreement or part of the Commonwealth any more than the US. There seems to be no restriction therefore on eligability of people with dual citizenship to standing for parliament or therefore high office. If you dig further you may find that the situation is not uncommon.

 

[le bon paysan]

I think if you are engaging in political activity you do need a visa to visit.

That's as I understand it as well.

 

[le bon paysan]

What about 2022?

Not over yet.
Take out the LNG, diamond trade and the last bit of financial services of euro passporting, which will end, and it's not good at all.

 

[nivilla1982]

Living and working
Irish and British citizens can continue to live and work on both sides of the border on the island of Ireland. This is because both Ireland and the UK are part of the Common Travel Area, which gives Irish and British citizens the right to live and access services in both countries.

Brexit and You: Northern Ireland

www.gov.ie

 

[Ashtree]

To stand as a candidate in a UK Parliamentary General Election you need to be at least 18 years old and:

• a British citizen
• a citizen of the Republic of Ireland
• a citizen of a commonwealth country who does not require leave to enter or remain in the UK, or has indefinite leave to remain in the UK

You may need to be 18 years old on paper, but looking at what’s actually going on, you can be as young as two years old mentally. Everywhere I look on the Tory benches, I observe behaviour utterly aligned with your typical “terrible twos“, tantrums. Bless ’em….

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

You may need to be 18 years old on paper, but looking at what’s actually going on, you can be as young as two years old mentally. Everywhere I look on the Tory benches, I observe behaviour utterly aligned with your typical “terrible twos“, tantrums. Bless ’em….

Pot, kettle springs to mind

 

[yin ewe]

You may need to be 18 years old on paper, but looking at what’s actually going on, you can be as young as two years old mentally. Everywhere I look on the Tory benches, I observe behaviour utterly aligned with your typical “terrible twos“, tantrums. Bless ’em….

Yawn emoji.