Ewes with mouth lesions

[twizzel]

A few of my ewes seem to have lesions on their mouths- a couple have a single lump that’s wart type that are red, another couple have more lumps not so angry a bit like a dermatitis reaction. We do get the odd bit of orf at lambing mainly in the pet lambs but it’s controlled with salt and tubby buckets. They are grazing a new ley that’s not been grazed by sheep for at least 5 years and the flock is closed apart from a ram every few years that’s quarantined fully before mixing. I’ve put salt out but wondering if it’s something in the field that’s caused this reaction rather than orf ? The ewes are well in themselves and all tupped now, just wondered if anyone else had seen similar reactions or if it’s a bit of orf that’ll run its course.

 

[poorsheepfarmer]

orf

 

[MRT]

No no, as my transporters authorisation training said; sheep or lambs with lesions near the mouth are most likely to have: A. Foot and Mouth Disease (Orf not an option)

 

[twizzel]

No no, as my transporters authorisation training said; sheep or lambs with lesions near the mouth are most likely to have: A. Foot and Mouth Disease (Orf not an option)

Damn, I should have remembered that from when I did the test !!

I'm wondering if the bottom pic is actually a bit of bottle brush/lumpy wool... but the top 2 red lesions I'm still unsure, they are a bit more like orf, but strange if it's that why it's popped up now on clean grazing.

 

[MRT]

Damn, I should have remembered that from when I did the test !!

I'm wondering if the bottom pic is actually a bit of bottle brush/lumpy wool... but the top 2 red lesions I'm still unsure, they are a bit more like orf, but strange if it's that why it's popped up now on clean grazing.

Don't worry I've got you - sadly we are going to have to torch the national herd/flock again, never mind

 

[Nithsdale]

The tups have been in? I bet it's herpes

Dirty little stop outs





(Sorry, no idea what it is. Seen it occasionally here too, but it's never been an issue worth examining farther)

 

[neilo]

The tups have been in? I bet it's herpes

Dirty little stop outs





(Sorry, no idea what it is. Seen it occasionally here too, but it's never been an issue worth examining farther)

@twizzel had better wear gloves when he's pulling the rams off then.

I would think orf too, but it won't cause any problems at this time of year and will just boost natural immunity.

 

[twizzel]

@twizzel had better where gloves when he's pulling the rams off then.

I would think orf too, but it won't cause any problems at this time of year and will just boost natural immunity.

Twizzel is female... or I was when I got dressed this morning !

That’s ok, funny it’s come up now, but better now than on udders at lambing

 

[Agrivator]

Have they had access to thistles or gorse?

 

[msheep66]

My question is definitely check what thistles there are and have the sheep been pulling at them?

 

[neilo]

Twizzel is female... or I was when I got dressed this morning !

My apologies.

 

[twizzel]

Have they had access to thistles or gorse?

No thistles, no gorse, there’s a few brambles in the hedgerow though. I was going to move them this week to a field that has a few thistles and gorse but more grass

 

[Agrivator]

No thistles, no gorse, there’s a few brambles in the hedgerow though. I was going to move them this week to a field that has a few thistles and gorse but more grass

Sheep are browsing animals, given the chance. Just like cattle are naturally woodland animals.

And anyone who has cut free a hog tangled up in Brambles, will know that they are nasty vicious things.
And so are the brambles.

 

[primmiemoo]

Could be two ailments as has been said. Orf as the single pustule, and a separate bottle brush sort of thing.

Of course, they'll all come down with rampant close-contact dermatitis, now, from piling in on the salt ...
and then turn pink or green with algae in the wool.

Ever inventive, the ovine.

 

[clod hopper]

Have they had access to thistles or gorse?

My thinking too

 

[Nithsdale]

Twizzel is female... or I was when I got dressed this morning !

That’s ok, funny it’s come up now, but better now than on udders at lambing

Always knew @neilo didn't know the difference between a tup and a ewe

 

[puppet]

Look up OMAGOD (ovine mouth and gum obscure disease) which was a term from F&M days. It was what the vet said when they looked at the mouths of thousands of healthy sheep and discovered lots of strange stuff, often just trauma from bare winter pastures.
I am sure many F&M culls were for just for these conditions and a nervous vet.

 

[TexelBen]

Always knew @neilo didn't know the difference between a tup and a ewe

I don't think your allowed to lift their tail to check in this day and age?
Or a rummage underneath, see if they've nakkers or paps