Exodus

[Kiwi Pete]

That's pretty darn good. Was not aware South Americans were going over there.

Quite a few.
When I did my level 4 dairy ticket my class only had 5 NZ born students, 7 from Chile and Argentina, 2 from Brazil, 3 from the Philippines and a couple from Saudi Arabia.
Fairly indicative that immigrants are the future of skilled labour, and management in this case!
And so, I wish them well in their career, and anyone who's prepared to venture into the unknown, in pursuit of their goals.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Obviously large breasts are best............




Because they produce more milk

But they complain of backache
So, the ideal size is whatever works for those involved.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Obviously large breasts are best............




Because they produce more milk

And as this is the dairy section of a farming forum I've got to say I've seen plenty of cows with big sloppy bags that don't produce that much milk................or as some would say, size isn't everything.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Neither is it always the case for dairy units.
Much like anything else - it depends where abouts on the staircase you are as far as labour costs go - there seem to be sweet spots at 240 ish cows, 400 ish and 650ish cow herds over here, to maximise the use of the number of employees needed.
Not a golden rule of course.

 

[pappuller]

And as this is the dairy section of a farming forum I've got to say I've seen plenty of cows with big sloppy bags that don't produce that much milk................or as some would say, size isn't everything.

I always prefer the 2 nd calvers that will do 10 gallons a day with no corn !!!!

 

[DairyGrazing]

And mindset.

Our milk contract is an amazing thing - I get to set my own price! Sure, my milk buyer has a say but their input only accounts for 4ppl of the current 30ppl I get. The rest of it is all determined by me and what I do. I don't see what the problem is?

Who is your milking going to?

 

[Big_D]

But they complain of backache
So, the ideal size is whatever works for those involved.

And as this is the dairy section of a farming forum I've got to say I've seen plenty of cows with big sloppy bags that don't produce that much milk................or as some would say, size isn't everything.

So what your saying is the most efficient milk production unit isn't necessarily the biggest but is in fact but the one/pair which is/are structured for long term sustainability..............

 

[BELOWAVERAGE]

Unfortunately not a rumour...sadly

Have you seen the person concerned bank account?, otherwise just a rumour, and a very astute move on the part of the chap concerned, he gets to keep his money, and the contractor has to wait an extra 6 months for his money, and takes the risk in a year when it looked like forage was going to be cheap.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

So what your saying is the most efficient milk production unit isn't necessarily the biggest but is in fact but the one/pair which is/are structured for long term sustainability..............

Structure and flexibility are quite important too.

 

[Rossymons]

Dairy Crest and its all laid out in their pricing schedule. There's the base payment which is their tool for price adjustment (up or down). At the minute their headline price is 30ppl and this is about 4ppl. The rest of it is dependent on levels of BF and PTN with no upper limit. So if I produced milk of 10% BF and 8% PTN then they have to pay according to their schedule. Its very clear that the more solids I send into their factory the more money they send into my bank account. Having the right cow and right diet to feed her is key - I have complete control over both of those.

Who is your milking going to?

 

[Bossfarmer]

Very few NZers work on them..
..because milking cows is the new "janitor job"
staff on all 3 of those had been there 3+years on the same farms and struck me as particular and passionate abour their cows. mostly folk from South America and Indonesia.

they not milking with robots out there yet?

 

[Bossfarmer]

people are saying dairy farmers should be making £1000/cow gross margin just now at current prices or they shouldnt be farming, im interested to know what fixed costs come off this £1000/cow as it seems a hell of a money

 

[Kiwi Pete]

they not milking with robots out there yet?

Yeah, some are, it hasn't really caught on, to be honest. Quite a few have removed them and built a new rotary.

 

[lazy farmer]

people are saying dairy farmers should be making £1000/cow gross margin just now at current prices or they shouldnt be farming, im interested to know what fixed costs come off this £1000/cow as it seems a hell of a money

it amazes me I have got this far in life without knowing what a gross margin is ?

 

[buffalo_soldier]

it amazes me I have got this far in life without knowing what a gross margin is ?

Dont worry at £1000 a cow you dont need to.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

it amazes me I have got this far in life without knowing what a gross margin is ?

It's what you get when you put a marginal sire over a gross dam.

 

[lazy farmer]

ah, I knew it was something above my pay grade.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

ah, I knew it was something above my pay grade.

 

[Bossfarmer]

it amazes me I have got this far in life without knowing what a gross margin is ?

output minus variable costs???

 

[lazy farmer]

output minus variable costs???

all costs are variable though?