F%%kin docks

[rhifsaith]

Best way to clean a field up of the bloody things?
Was thinking of drilling with brassicas after roundup 1st year.Would following that be best with something like tornado for a few years so i could spray with dockstar, then a full reseed in 2 years?

 

[steveR]

Watching this one!!

Berluddy things have suddenly taken off this time in a 3 yr mowing ley that is due to be taken out and then reseeded
as a herbal ley in 3 months!!

Was thinking let it green up after next cut, and murder the regrowth after 3 weeks with Kyleo.

 

[Al R]

Sheep?

 

[Kevtherev]

Break crop followed by grass without clover to allow 2 lots of weed control then add clover after if needed

 

[Kevtherev]

Or cereals for few years sometimes cleans them up

 

[neilo]

Dock seed is supposed to be able to lay dormant for up to 70 years iirc, so anything you will do will only ever reduce the numbers a bit. It will help of course, but if you want the pasture to be completely clear you will have to keep at ‘em until long after you’re gone.

 

[milkloss]

I'm not sure there's really enough research on the whole dormancy thing to be fair. Sure, there might be some after 70 years, but how many?

anyhow... we're going for only trying to disturb the top few inches of soil and regular spraying. Seems to be working but to be honest a lot of docks isn't much worse than a few...,,,, they still need spraying.

 

[Devonian]

We find that they still come back in year 2 of a re-seed, even following 2 or 3 years of cereals or maize. Bloody things.

Never seen them so bad this year since the dry spell. Missed the boat with the spray after first cut, so definitely gonna hit them with hurlo this time around, and again next spring. I know we are going to lose our clover, but if we can get on top of them, planning to stitch the clover back in next year.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Other than a nuclear fallout what is the best thing to spray the [email protected] things with?! Pulled 7 jcb bucket fulls out this year

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I'm spraying mine next week with full rate and wetter , will leave till end of August to see if any come back if they do spray again and drill a 4 year Ley , ist a cutting ley so probably won't bother with clover so any trouble next year I can hit them with

Fluroxypyr that is effective and relatively cheap
I've used that alongside Dockstar, one third the price and just as good

 

[M-J-G]

Best way to clean a field up of the bloody things?
Was thinking of drilling with brassicas after roundup 1st year.Would following that be best with something like tornado for a few years so i could spray with dockstar, then a full reseed in 2 years?

Glyphosate old sward, reseed (preferably spring) and spray seedlings with Pastor

 

[Raider112]

If they aren't too bad keeping them from getting any worse with a knapsack sprayer used to be ok but the modern sprays aren't as effective. Asulox was the stuff but I don't think you can get it now.

 

[z.man]

If they aren't too bad keeping them from getting any worse with a knapsack sprayer used to be ok but the modern sprays aren't as effective. Asulox was the stuff but I don't think you can get it now.

Think you’ll be ok if you upgrade the knapsack to a helicopter think Asulox is available for Ariel applications

 

[PSQ]

Sprayed a paddock with with Dow (Corteva) Envy this year (fluroxypyr / florasulam) and it did a proper number on buttercups and docks.

 

[milkloss]

Glyphosate old sward, reseed (preferably spring) and spray seedlings with Pastor

pastor is way too expensive for seedlings..... headland polo will easily see them off.

 

[milkloss]

Other than a nuclear fallout what is the best thing to spray the [email protected] things with?! Pulled 7 jcb bucket fulls out this year

1. Forefront
2. Doxstar
3. Fluroxypyr (the sensible man's choice)

 

[ploughman1963]

Try farming organically - we find we are managing them reasonably well by using multi-cut silage , cutting every 4 weeks, and rotational grazing and premowing - 18 to 24 day rotation. When we get caught Out is drought. The docks run to head before the grass grows which means we do get them heading.
our reseed policy is winter oats, stubble turnips and undersown spring barley. The oats depress the amount of docks due to the density of the canopy - we find dead dockplants. We get docks germinating in the turnips but the sheep hammer those. We get them coming back in the spring barley but not strongly and then the regrowth is into rotational grazing or multi cut silage.
We have learned to live with them , tolerate them and manage them as best we can - Certainly I don’t think they adversely affect our grass production.

 

[The Ruminant]

I find weeds aren’t a problem. They’re a symptom of a problem....

 

[ollie989898]

Docks won't arrive if the sward is kept happy and dominating. The second you start trampling them or driving over them and leaving bare ground, weeds are going to turn up.

Putting in a break crop and using the correct sequence of chemistry will ensure all new leys are weed free and stay that way.

Sprayed a paddock with with Dow (Corteva) Envy this year (fluroxypyr / florasulam) and it did a proper number on buttercups and docks.

You can add more fluroxypyr to envy to stiffen it on docks.

Killing docks in a cereal crop is childsplay, 10g of ally will do it.

 

[M-J-G]

pastor is way too expensive for seedlings..... headland polo will easily see them off.

It will, and that's generally what I use, but since the OP is having major issue I thought I'd better suggest a silver bullet.