Family farm attacked by looney left

[bankrupt]

"Over the years she has received millions of pounds in taxpayers’ subsidies . . . . . last year the subsidy amounted to £936,000. "

How archaic process of Queen’s consent is still used on modern laws

Boris Johnson’s Brexit trade deal and farming shake-up were subject to royal vetting

www.theguardian.com

 

[Brisel]

Typical Guardian article. Innuendo of the conflict of interest but no proof of royal interference in legislation.

No mention of the Magna Carta. If it wasn't for that particular document, we probably wouldn't still have a monarchy.

 

[TechWise]

Bit of a non-issue. Where's the outrage over millionaires buying up farmland to avoid paying taxes? At least some of the royals are out there trying to drum up trade and doing PR, which is more than can be said for a lot of big landowners.

 

[bankrupt]

Typical Guardian article.

More of the same, today.

"The Sovereign Grant Act 2011, which replaced the old civil list, will naturally have required Queen’s consent. It is called marking your own homework. The 2011 Act has immeasurably increased the wealth of the Queen, who for example now gains a windfall of many millions from the use of the seabed for offshore wind, money that before 2011 would have gone in its entirety to the Treasury . . . . . . She is ripping off the nation."

Queen's consent is a constitutional outrage – parliament must abolish it | Monarchy | The Guardian

 

[Brisel]

The Sovereign Grant Act came from Parliament, not the monarchy.

Blame the Tories for that, which the Guardian do.

 

[thorpe]

Bit of a non-issue. Where's the outrage over millionaires buying up farmland to avoid paying taxes? At least some of the royals are out there trying to drum up trade and doing PR, which is more than can be said for a lot of big landowners.

the queen does more good than dyson!

 

[ewald]

I have the greatest admiration for the Queen, but her vacuum cleaners are not up to Dyson standards.....

 

[Brisel]

the queen does more good than dyson!

Her son is more environmentally friendly, if a bit out of touch in a real world.

 

[Cowcorn]

If i was one of the good ladys subjects, i would think she would have a far better understanding of farming and rural affairs than the last number of goverments in the uk . The Queen is one of the last of the great generation of British and i have always liked her . My mother was a big fan of the Queen and every Christmas despite my fathers raised eyebrow the Queens speech was compulsory viewing .
Long may she live and quite frankly she will be a very hard act to follow .
Proper Charlie wont even come close!!!

 

[uztrac]

If i was one of the good ladys subjects, i would think she would have a far better understanding of farming and rural affairs than the last number of goverments in the uk . The Queen is one of the last of the great generation of British and i have always liked her . My mother was a big fan of the Queen and every Christmas despite my fathers raised eyebrow the Queens speech was compulsory viewing .
Long may she live and quite frankly she will be a very hard act to follow .
Proper Charlie wont even come close!!!

Over 57 years ago I was involved in agribusiness in Co.Kildare and HMQ was on the throne then,and is still there today,continunity !!

 

[EddieB]

Her son is more environmentally friendly, if a bit out of touch in a real world.

And of course there is the other one, it would be quite ironic if he had to live some of his life at her majesty’s pleasure!

 

[bankrupt]

Long may she live and quite frankly she will be a very hard act to follow .

Interesting comments below the line today - for example -

"William of Normandy declared that all land (in England) belonged to him.

Then he started to award big pieces of the land to his pals . . . .

Two-thirds of the UK land still belongs to fewer than 200,000 families - out of about 24 million families."

rockyrex

Apparently, he's some sort of hard-ball anti-landowner anti-monarchist.

 

[NLF]

Interesting comments below the line today - for example -

"William of Normandy declared that all land (in England) belonged to him.

Then he started to award big pieces of the land to his pals . . . .

Two-thirds of the UK land still belongs to fewer than 200,000 families - out of about 24 million families."

rockyrex

Apparently, he's some sort of hard-ball anti-landowner anti-monarchist.

This is a classic lefty statement - "two thirds of the UK is owned by 1% of the population".

"Two thirds of the UK is owned by farmers" is equally true but doesn't have the same class war appeal.

Besides, if you do the maths - 32 million acres in England divided by 200,000 gives an average holding size of 160 acres. Not exactly a feudal estate.

Land ownership is somewhat more concentrated than that. England is 32m acres. 70% of that is classed as farm land, so approximately 22m acres. The RPA pays out 85,000 claims so the average claim is for 263 acres. However half the pot gets paid to the top 10% of claimants which implies that half the farm land (or 35% of England) is owned by 8,500 people who hold an average of 1,317 acres. That's a larger number but its still doesn't support the view of the UK being dominated by vast feudal estates. These calculations are a bit simplistic i.e. they ignore the fact that 1/3 of farm land is tenanted but its a decent ballpark estimate.

There are only a handful of owners in the UK who can trace their family holding all the way back to William the Conqueror (e.g. I think there's one such land owner in the whole of East Anglia). I would guess that my home village, where every farm has changed hands in the last 100 years is more representative.

 

[Brisel]

If death duties hadn't been introduced, the land would still be in far fewer hands. 2 world wars, especially WW1 meant that lots of big estates had to be sold off to pay the taxman as thanks for sending their sons to die in the trenches.

 

[NLF]

True. The agricultural recessions in the late Victorian times and the 1920s - 30s also contributed as land owners sought to diversify their assets and incomes or repay debts accumulated in the good times (often to build vast white elephant mansions).

Land ownership fragmented from the 1870s (when Bateman published his survey), and probably reached its most fragmented in the 1950s. Since then I would imagine it has become substantially more concentrated as owner / occupiers have bought out neighbours. Since the 1950s the number of farms has fallen by about 60% according to Defra.

 

[bankrupt]

Guardian doubles down in its latest editorial:-

"It is clear that an archaic and mysterious convention affords a level of protection to the personal financial interests of the sovereign that no private citizen could dream of. This gives rise to a significant conflict of interest . . . . . "

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ens-consent-the-crown-does-more-than-it-seems