Farm 2000 or Glen Farrow Log Boilers

[MidlandFarmer]

It is likely to be the system design that is the problem or the heat meter is in the wrong place...

These type of boilers are not sophiticated they are essentially just a big metal box.

 

[Ross collison]

We are farming background, live in a rural area, main line of business is in the forestry industry, so through all this we decided to install one of these 'all singing and all dancing' Glen Farrow Biomass boilers complete with a log drying kiln...

The boiler installed is a 210 kW so is eligible for the RHI on the 20 year plan.

We have now had the boiler in 3 months, first quarter of RHI is due, we have achieved about 90.98 mwh, and that has being running it hard, we thought this was not enough after speaking to others with similar systems in but no glen farrows.
we are a BSL registered supplier, we have being burning the same wood that we have being supplying to others who have being achieving way more productive heat.

Through learning and reading about the systems and how they work and finding data out through the meter we have found that the system is only producing 50 kW max!!
****bearing in mind is was sold as a 210 kW system****

Glen Farrow promote how they have done 350 successful installations of the 210 boiler. so I thought some people with them are about to be on here , if you are can you give me some feed back please!!

To try and make the best out of a bad situation i am looking at installing a farm 2000, to run along side which from what i gather is more than tried and tested!! They are posting me a list of happy customers that i can go and see but in the meantime i would really appreciated some feedback on either machine, amounts of wood used, heat produced....ect....

we only are looking at log boilers, as it is more beneficial to us than wood chip.

Hi Mark,

We install a range of different boilers, different ones for different customers depending on what they want to achieve.

Out of the big bale boilers Dragon/Glen Farrow/Farm2000 we decided that the Farm2000 was the one to represent due to better efficiency's than some of the others and them having an excellent track record.

If you would like quote for your new installation you can contact ESP Energy on 01743 718 003.

 

[humblefarmer]

Hi Mark,

We install a range of different boilers, different ones for different customers depending on what they want to achieve.

Out of the big bale boilers Dragon/Glen Farrow/Farm2000 we decided that the Farm2000 was the one to represent due to better efficiency's than some of the others and them having an excellent track record.

If you would like quote for your new installation you can contact ESP Energy on 01743 718 003.

Out of curiosity, what efficiency do you think the F200 has then!? obviously you haven't seen the Ekopal range which is much higher!

How many straw boilers have you fitted?

 

[Andy McNab]

We are farming background, live in a rural area, main line of business is in the forestry industry, so through all this we decided to install one of these 'all singing and all dancing' Glen Farrow Biomass boilers complete with a log drying kiln...

The boiler installed is a 210 kW so is eligible for the RHI on the 20 year plan.

We have now had the boiler in 3 months, first quarter of RHI is due, we have achieved about 90.98 mwh, and that has being running it hard, we thought this was not enough after speaking to others with similar systems in but no glen farrows.
we are a BSL registered supplier, we have being burning the same wood that we have being supplying to others who have being achieving way more productive heat.

Through learning and reading about the systems and how they work and finding data out through the meter we have found that the system is only producing 50 kW max!!
****bearing in mind is was sold as a 210 kW system****

Glen Farrow promote how they have done 350 successful installations of the 210 boiler. so I thought some people with them are about to be on here , if you are can you give me some feed back please!!

To try and make the best out of a bad situation i am looking at installing a farm 2000, to run along side which from what i gather is more than tried and tested!! They are posting me a list of happy customers that i can go and see but in the meantime i would really appreciated some feedback on either machine, amounts of wood used, heat produced....ect....

we only are looking at log boilers, as it is more beneficial to us than wood chip.

We only have a 100l and with the farrow
And a 4 meter chimney - not creating enough draw??
We are heating a 40 ft shipping container. It struggles to get above 35 degrees
The wood is really good Douglas it's at about 8.5% moisture

Are you not confusing a 100 litre expansion vessel with a buffer

 

[Aberdeenshire lad]

We are thinking about going down the biomass road but just looking at all options
We have plenty straw on farm and feel that wood is bound to get scarce and expensive.
Any tips or potential pitfalls to avoid?

 

[Gramman]

We could do you an Ekopal and we're local

 

[Doing it for the kids]

@Aberdeenshire lad get a straw boiler in, it's virtually free for you so your returns are still worth it.

How much heat do you need / what are you heating? I have been involved with about 8 install in the last 3 hrs and all but one was an ekopal

 

[555]

If your looking for a fully automated system have a look at the Lin Ka boilers, then if of interest get in touch. Andrew

 

[Gramman]

If anyone is looking for fully automated we provide installation and support for Froling, Hargassner and Eta boilers.

 

[erf mick]

We only have a 100l and with the farrow
And a 4 meter chimney - not creating enough draw??
We are heating a 40 ft shipping container. It struggles to get above 35 degrees
The wood is really good Douglas it's at about 8.5% moisture

Mark,I run both Glen Farrow and Farm 2000 boilers,heating kilns .The Glen farrow system is inferior to a well installed vented system with a large accumulator but the system is cheap,has shorter flues,smaller primary circuit pipe sizes etc.the boiler fan also has no means of cutting off when the fire burns out.the farm 2000 systems running 25000 litre accumulators ,etc are far superior and it's well worth doing your homework before committing.im happy to pass on my experience if interested.i have no connection to either farm 2000 or Glen Farrow

 

[renewablejohn]

Also check whether your in a smoke control area as some of these dirty inefficient boilers are not authorised for use in smoke control zones.

 

[smallholder99]

anyone seen the log boiler made by engineering technology

 

[Turra farmer]

Glen farrow need shooting if they sold you a 100 litre tank! Even if it was a 1000 litre tank surely they would still need shooting.
Here's me thinking my 14000 litre tank is too small!!!

The 100 litre tank is an expansion for the water in boiler as it heats not a buffer , there is no buffer heat is produced as its required , could be a few things if not getting the output , heat exchanger too small and not dumping heat quick enough would be my guess ,

Ours is a 290kw and will do 220kw when burning straw and already hot

 

[Bklog]

I have the glenfarrow 210 boiler and 40ft container/kiln. Not on the rhi yet. The water temp is set at 80 degrees and that keeps the kiln at around 55/60 degrees. Very happy with that. Whats everyone else getting in kwh on the rhi at them numbers.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

What are you burning? Wood I'm guessing?

What others get surely depends on now much heat load they have? Mine hits my targets each year which is ideal but then I did spend ages planning and designing to match demand to boiler size.

What may be more interesting is how many kwh you can get from a batch boiler in a 5 day period. That really shows how well they run

 

[renewablejohn]

I have the glenfarrow 210 boiler and 40ft container/kiln. Not on the rhi yet. The water temp is set at 80 degrees and that keeps the kiln at around 55/60 degrees. Very happy with that. Whats everyone else getting in kwh on the rhi at them numbers.

Dont be surprised if the RHI is removed from log drying.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Dont be surprised if the RHI is removed from log drying.

I would go a stage further, I would be surprised if you can still claim for fuel drying on new set ups from 2018

 

[ejenergy]

Dont be surprised if the RHI is removed from log drying.

Surely once RHI has been approved they cant stop paying the tariff on Log Drying Installs? You would understand on not yet accredited new installs?

I have 2x 210kw Glen Farrow Boilers and Log Kilns...Very Pleased with the ROI.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Surely once RHI has been approved they cant stop paying the tariff on Log Drying Installs? You would understand on not yet accredited new installs?

I have 2x 210kw Glen Farrow Boilers and Log Kilns...Very Pleased with the ROI.

Don't be so sure. The RHI contract is well worded. If anyone is hoping to get accredited with a drying set up I would be v v worried. Those with just a drying set up with no other need for the heat may also be questioned.

The RHI was not designed to make people wealthy by drying firewood.

It's their fault for not having a more strict policy to start with. I know loads of set ups costing 6-7 figure sums built just to dry chip.

Time will tell. The RHI is quite a fluid structure it seems.

 

[renewablejohn]

Surely once RHI has been approved they cant stop paying the tariff on Log Drying Installs? You would understand on not yet accredited new installs?

I have 2x 210kw Glen Farrow Boilers and Log Kilns...Very Pleased with the ROI.

Dont believe it I have already had my fingers burnt by a change in government policy which has been backdated. I suggest you make the most of it because I cannot see it lasting and they have the ability within the rules to claw money back.