Farming in France

[Sparky270]

Have you done this yourself?
Are you installed on an "exploitation agricole"?
In what region are your facts and figures based?

region bulls**t is were all these lads are from !!

 

[Muck Spreader]

region bullpoo is were all these lads are from !!

You mean you haven't got lot's ex-pats around you financing their château and jet-set lifestyle from a dozen horses and a beehive. Unfortunately for me I was gullible enough to think horses had horns.

 

[Sparky270]

You mean you haven't got lot's ex-pats around you financing their château and jet-set lifestyle from a dozen horses and a beehive. Unfortunately for me I was gullible enough to think horses had horns.

u forgot the truffles ,think its time we joined this lads gang, he makes it sound so so easy !

 

[will l]

Will you lot take this man seriously please, he has some very good figures, i just want to help and inform prospective new entrants into french farming with an explaination of the french agricultural structure,
http://french-farm-grants.com/

 

[its yourself]

Will you lot take this man seriously please, he has some very good figures, i just want to help and inform prospective new entrants into french farming with an explaination of the french agricultural structure,
http://french-farm-grants.com/

Thank you for the link.

 

[c'est pas vrai]

Have you done this yourself?
Are you installed on an "exploitation agricole"?
In what region are your facts and figures based?

yes - 3 grants mounting to more than €50k for planting and construction
yes - primarily herbs and aromatics
yes - i own 30 ha in the languedoc

 

[will l]

yes - 3 grants mounting to more than €50k for planting and construction
yes - primarily herbs and aromatics
yes - i own 30 ha in the languedoc

Could you tell me then how you claim grants on a "holday home" and the process for registering as an "active farmer" and what minimum agricultural qualifications are needed to qualify for grants,
Are the scenarios actual properties, If they are where can i get more information on them?

 

[c'est pas vrai]

Could you tell me then how you claim grants on a "holday home" and the process for registering as an "active farmer" and what minimum agricultural qualifications are needed to qualify for grants,
Are the scenarios actual properties, If they are where can i get more information on them?

1a. The holiday home can still be a business with employees, sales and profits (think of prince Charles' many homes that receive agricultural grants).
1b. Process for registering - http://french-farm-grants.com/help/route-map/ .
1c. Qualifications. Officially a BAC or License, but you are likely a mature candidate. As an owner you can train on the job (help available), if you have 3+ years of experience in your chosen activity you may be qualified.
2. Scenarios are to present ways of thinking through different properties.

What is your own situation at present? if you prefer drop an email on the site.

 

[czechmate]

1a. The holiday home can still be a business with employees, sales and profits (think of prince Charles' many homes that receive agricultural grants).
1b. Process for registering - http://french-farm-grants.com/help/route-map/ .
1c. Qualifications. Officially a BAC or License, but you are likely a mature candidate. As an owner you can train on the job (help available), if you have 3+ years of experience in your chosen activity you may be qualified.
2. Scenarios are to present ways of thinking through different properties.

What is your own situation at present? if you prefer drop an email on the site.

That was/is my experience

 

[will l]

1a. The holiday home can still be a business with employees, sales and profits (think of prince Charles' many homes that receive agricultural grants).
1b. Process for registering - http://french-farm-grants.com/help/route-map/ .
1c. Qualifications. Officially a BAC or License, but you are likely a mature candidate. As an owner you can train on the job (help available), if you have 3+ years of experience in your chosen activity you may be qualified.
2. Scenarios are to present ways of thinking through different properties.

What is your own situation at present? if you prefer drop an email on the site.

Does prince charles have homes in france on which he claims agricultural grants?
Re your use of the word "grants" do you count the dossier PAC or Single FarmPayment in english as a grant?
At what age are you a mature candidate?

 

[c'est pas vrai]

That was/is my experience

which agency did you discuss or register with? mine was with chambre d'agriculture.

 

[c'est pas vrai]

Does prince charles have homes in france on which he claims agricultural grants?
Re your use of the word "grants" do you count the dossier PAC or Single FarmPayment in english as a grant?
At what age are you a mature candidate?

Grants - http://french-farm-grants.com/save-tax/finance/
Age - don't know
Charlie - see your holiday home question

 

[JP1]

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10207007487877982&id=1320527778

 

[will l]

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10207007487877982&id=1320527778

link not working,

 

[will l]

Grants - http://french-farm-grants.com/save-tax/finance/
Age - don't know
Charlie - see your holiday home question

So i can assume you call the dossier PAC 'single farm payment a grant,
It is a subsidy to produce cheap food,
France uses various legislation to stop what is called slipper farming in english
firstly you need to qualify and apply to be a farmer, and install,
the PAC can only be claimed by qualified people/ societies, resident in france, read the small print when you next fill in the claim,
An exploitation agricole can only claim PAC on agricultural land surface agricole utilisable, not Surface non agricole, this is again on the PAC form,
You cannot let other people graze your land as you suggest, and claim 130 euros hectare grazing subsidy
They will by default have bail rural tenancy for as long as they are a farmer
You cannot claim grazing without you are a registered exploitation elevage with a numero cheptel and have the animals,
The same applies to bee hives,and claiming subsidy or grants on them
If you borrow money any capital repayment will have to come from profit which is subject to 47% MSA and tax
so a 300k loan will need to produce 600k profit plus the interest,Your income figures dont show any costs or EBE "excedent brute de exploitation", gross margin, just gross income,
The properties used as examples are residential properties being sold by french residential estate agents via http://www.my-french-house.com/ they are not allowed to sell agricultural land in france, so all the property you have off there site cannot be agricultural or they would be commiting a criminal offence,
Finally what is your numero SIRET, publicly available business registration number,
c'est pas vrai "its not true" sums it up really,

 

[bobk]

So i can assume you call the dossier PAC 'single farm payment a grant,
It is a subsidy to produce cheap food,
France uses various legislation to stop what is called slipper farming in english
firstly you need to qualify and apply to be a farmer, and install,
the PAC can only be claimed by qualified people/ societies, resident in france, read the small print when you next fill in the claim,
An exploitation agricole can only claim PAC on agricultural land surface agricole utilisable, not Surface non agricole, this is again on the PAC form,
You cannot let other people graze your land as you suggest, and claim 130 euros hectare grazing subsidy
They will by default have bail rural tenancy for as long as they are a farmer
You cannot claim grazing without you are a registered exploitation elevage with a numero cheptel and have the animals,
The same applies to bee hives,and claiming subsidy or grants on them
If you borrow money any capital repayment will have to come from profit which is subject to 47% MSA and tax
so a 300k loan will need to produce 600k profit plus the interest,Your income figures dont show any costs or EBE "excedent brute de exploitation", gross margin, just gross income,
The properties used as examples are residential properties being sold by french residential estate agents via http://www.my-french-house.com/ they are not allowed to sell agricultural land in france, so all the property you have off there site cannot be agricultural or they would be commiting a criminal offence,
Finally what is your numero SIRET, publicly available business registration number,
c'est pas vrai "its not true" sums it up really,

Kin hell, surprised anyone buys one

 

[czechmate]

Kin hell, surprised anyone buys one

For the "brave hearts"

 

[bobk]

For the "brave hearts"

Yes , mind you Will does give the worst scenario quite a bit , he needs a happy pill

 

[czechmate]

Yes , mind you Will does give the worst scenario quite a bit , he needs a happy pill

Well I'm not qualified in ag but get my sub. I think it is certainly important to live her but on the other hand do know of some that don't. I did ask re the next place I am buying, if my uk ltd company could be the farmer, the acct thought no, the safer thought possibly yes... But without getting the sub

 

[bobk]

Well I'm not qualified in ag but get my sub. I think it is certainly important to live her but on the other hand do know of some that don't. I did ask re the next place I am buying, if my uk ltd company could be the farmer, the acct thought no, the safer thought possibly yes... But without getting the sub

Why can't you amalgamate ?