Feeding fresh harvested barley

[Northeastfarmer]

Don't worry about what they look like, just think about margin

Money ain't everything...I like to walk round my cattle twice a day

 

[beefandsleep]

Money ain't everything...I like to walk round my cattle twice a day

Easier if they're in a shed.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Easier if they're in a shed.

Expensive if they're in the shed

 

[beefandsleep]

Off topic but how the f... do people make cattle pay feeding adlib cereals ... it didn't stack when barley was £70

I had my best year ever when wheat was £200

 

[An Gof]

Expensive if they're in the shed

No, much cheaper. Think about the cost of a shed and the stocking capacity compared with an acre of ground, it's capital cost, and stocking capacity.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

No, much cheaper. Think about the cost of a shed and the stocking capacity compared with an acre of ground, it's capital cost, and stocking capacity.

Think of all the straw, the bedding down, the mucking out...oh all the wasted time

 

[bobk]

I had my best year ever when wheat was £200

Sold it then.

 

[beefandsleep]

It's always worth more fed.

 

[beefandsleep]

No, much cheaper. Think about the cost of a shed and the stocking capacity compared with an acre of ground, it's capital cost, and stocking capacity.

Very true. If we could have cattle out all year it would obviously be far better, but we can't so we have to have sheds. If you have a shed it makes no sense to have it empty half the year.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Very true. If we could have cattle out all year it would obviously be far better, but we can't so we have to have sheds. If you have a shed it makes no sense to have it empty half the year.

You'd be horrified here then....

 

[goodevans]

Never had a problem here. I've also had many deaths due to the abattoir czmate [emoji6]

same here old wives tale I reckon

 

[Pan mixer]

There is an enzyme imbalance in new barley that affects pigs - particularly breeding pigs.

I try not to feed winter barley until October to sows.

Dunno about cattle though, mine eat grass.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Off topic but how the f... do people make cattle pay feeding adlib cereals ... it didn't stack when barley was £70

I was paying 70 for wheat then .i could fatten a cow in 4 month that would take you 6

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Mine were.on add lib outside .

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Mine were.on add lib outside .

Like being in a shed but only outside...and cheaper

 

[Bury the Trash]

You can't feed new barley ad lib if they've been on ad lib old crop they'll get barley poisoning

we used know when the mill was putting in new barley for the fattening pigs ....it used to make them shite a bit loose....we then had to ask them to go back to old barley in the mix for us for a month or so.......

 

[gone up the hill]

Never feed new barley on its own to ad lib/high kg/per day cattle, always mix it with some old crop for 2/3 weeks at least, at best they will scour and worse they will keel over if you don't.

 

[Lovegoodstock]

Very true. If we could have cattle out all year it would obviously be far better, but we can't so we have to have sheds. If you have a shed it makes no sense to have it empty half the year.

Does make sense that cost of shed should be utilised 12 months of the year to spread cost, as do a few big feeders in my area, buying contracted waste feed cheap through the summer months, but as a store producer obviously turn out saves money and grazing on young leys despite input costs increases profitability, but the value of spring turn out, opening the gates and watching them have a run and lifting those back legs in enjoyment, reckon to me worth 100 a beast for the enjoyment factor

 

[Forever Fendt]

My heart stopped beating for a second when I read that

same here

 

[Muck Spreader]

We ran out of cereals before harvest and so were buying grain which was painful.
Hence, when we cut the barley, it was very ripe and 9%, I started to utilise it straight away.
About 10 days after starting on the new crop, we had a fattening bull die from kidney failure. Is this a coincidence or quite likely caused by the fresh barley? We don't only feed barley but it makes about half of the ration. Bulls are add lib. This one was 550 kg.

Do you know it was definitely kidney failure? If it was I would think the change to fresh barley was just a coincidence.