Fengrain Storage (275t) available to buy at a discounted price
- Thread starter TBF
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Not sure how the stores can prevent that being traded as long as there is an outside market for it.
Sorry if I've forgotten where that was mentioned. What does it cost to rent for a year?
Not sure, you have always been able to book ‘over delivery’ which is essentially the same thing.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
How did that work out in 2015 when most had bumper crops?
I’m hoping a Camgrain employee can come on here and answer all these questions as I do not know the intricicies of this stuff. I know it it is cost effective in our contract farming based, very lean operation growing only quality crops all supplied to domestic markets.
Why or how? Basically I don’t understand your point, please explain. Thanks
JonL
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- Location
- East Yorks
What happens when CS sheds/silos reach end of life? Is there a sinking fund to fund replacement or do members get hit with a bill?
It must depend on the store but for mine that is allowed for in the annual charge
Wilts Grain’s operating charge covered all repairs and maintenance when we were members. Silos will last a long time (30+ years) if looked after properly.
A new drier is going in this time not cost me a penny more than my annual charge. Horses for courses, do I like the annual charge, of course not but it's fixed so no nasty surprises.
Funny how some who are vocal anti CS contract hire their tractors due to known cost etc.
Jetemp
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- Location
- North Yorkshire
It’s no different to building a shed at home then having the cost of running and maintaining, it’s just in a different place and you share it with others. A better analogy would be buying a tractor then paying for a 8 year warranty each year, or maxi care on a Claas combine which is a yearly cost.
They don't run on fresh air, do they?
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
I’d like £70/t please.
I think your a bit out of touch with sheds having not used them for so long. We’ve got grain stores still in full use built by my grandfather in the late 50’s. Fortunately he had the foresight to build tall so we can tip modern trailers in them. All we do to them is clean them out every year. They still have the original Typhoon fans and the only repairs ever done have been two rewires to confirm with safety. Structurally nothing other than an insurance claim 10 years ago when a student took the front of the roof off by the door. They hold 1000t each and cost £4850 to build. They haven’t even cost 1 penny per tonne over the last 70 years. Even if they need new fans at some point it’ll be nothing cost wise. New sheds will be the same. The ones I’ve put up are with the future in mind and they don’t cost anywhere near the figures quoted on here.
I slung up a shed at home a few years ago cheaply with a concrete floor and have some pedestals for it. I can’t exactly compare it to the guys nearby who have put up their own sheds with high capacity driers, stirrers, weighbridges, sampling labs etc I could say they are idiots for doing more than the absolute bare minimum!
Wet years my central store really comes into its own, it pays for the dry ones. When I can preserve quality and be cutting at 25% (and they cap drying charges) We usually have circa of 900ha of quality milling and malting crops to cut. I can’t sling that on abit of drying floor or pedestal and hope to preserve any kind of quality, it will still be in the field if that’s all the drying I had! It’s horses for courses and there is loads of variables for it. If you have central store you need to making the most of it in different way.
Got a price at the moment for a 1500t grain store for £101,000 erected which includes a fan house, doors, foundations, erection etc. Over 25 years that’s £2.70/t/year. Over 50 years it’s £1.34/t/year and over 75 years that’s £0.90/t/year.
I’m just waiting for the price for both a flat concrete floor with above ground laterals and underfloor laterals and a fan so this needs to be added in, but even so it’ll be no where near your annual charge or anywhere near the CS buy in cost.
If I was you I’d speak to your contract farms, ask them for a 25 year deal and build sheds at the home farm as it’ll save you money and then give you something to sell/rent out when the contracts finished.
I’m just waiting for the price for both a flat concrete floor with above ground laterals and underfloor laterals and a fan so this needs to be added in, but even so it’ll be no where near your annual charge or anywhere near the CS buy in cost.
If I was you I’d speak to your contract farms, ask them for a 25 year deal and build sheds at the home farm as it’ll save you money and then give you something to sell/rent out when the contracts finished.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
25% moisture? Are you in Scotland or Suffolk. What are you cutting it with, 1990 Dominator 85?
If it works for you that's fine.
How far are you from Camgrain?