Fertiliser price for those that miss it in Arable section

[fermerboy]

Had a man here today who was quoted £1070/ton for I think 20/10/10, with no guarantee of delivery anytime soon
To be honest I was so shocked at the price I kind of missed the spec.

 

[muleman]

We got 30 ton delivered this week for £595 (£18,000)
Wonder if we should sell it on for £36,000.
Could be the best option

 

[Henarar]

So I spoke to a friend this morning, he's cutting cow numbers and just using 50 units N with Slurry

If enough farmers do this it could end up as the best thing that happened.
Dairy may be better? but can anyone really see how it pays to spend 50 quid per cwt on fert to grow grass for suck cows, yes store/fat Bullocks have gone up but they are not 4 times the price and most othe inputs have gone up as well.
This is a worldwide increase in the price of fert I take it ? So everyone will be in the same boat.
Cut production a bit and let the laws of supply and demand take over or work for the fert manufacturers/gas suppliers, which is best ?

 

[Bill dog]

We got 30 ton delivered this week for £595 (£18,000)
Wonder if we should sell it on for £36,000.
Could be the best option

Use half rate this yr, see how the place grows/ performs. Stick the other half in the shed for next yr.
If the price drops, you still have some well bought fert in the shed, if it continues to go mad, you have some very well bought fert in the shed !

 

[Will 1594]

how many small bales in a quadrant ? 7-8 same as straw , there are a few around here £20

buy a crane weigh scales off ebay
got one here £70 off ebay does upto 500 kg
hang it on loader put strap round bales and you will know then

 

[egbert]

how many dry beef cows will one bale feed per day ?

how long is this piece of string? big cows? small cows? Lying indoors? out and running over acres of rough? Is tha bale a sour old rushy thing, or a fragrant bit of baled sunshine? barely 4' bale out of tired old bus? chopped tight bale crammed into 4'+?

Outlying, with rough, I'm currently on 16-17 South Devons outlying- but they often skip a day to clean up. Galloways on 20+ per bale. Baler is a vintage old thing, like its driver.
indoors, more like 14-15 to clean up a bale.

 

[DrDunc]

If enough farmers do this it could end up as the best thing that happened.
Dairy may be better? but can anyone really see how it pays to spend 50 quid per cwt on fert to grow grass for suck cows, yes store/fat Bullocks have gone up but they are not 4 times the price and most othe inputs have gone up as well.
This is a worldwide increase in the price of fert I take it ? So everyone will be in the same boat.
Cut production a bit and let the laws of supply and demand take over or work for the fert manufacturers/gas suppliers, which is best ?

People will need to eat, and there's going to be a huge food shortage this coming winter

Even if many farmers weren't already contemplating cutting back after fert prices quadrupled, the missing wheat that won't be getting harvested in the Ukraine this year accounts for 20% of the world's annual production.

Food inflation will be enormous.

If we can weather this financial storm, some of that inflation will trickle down to our farmgate prices. Whether it's a big enough trickle to survive the input cost increases....... time will tell.....

 

[ridger]

Got sent this, prices are in euro because I'm on the border

 

[Bossfarmer]

Had a man here today who was quoted £1070/ton for I think 20/10/10, with no guarantee of delivery anytime soon
To be honest I was so shocked at the price I kind of missed the spec.

would that be for silage or grazing ground?

 

[Bossfarmer]

Got sent this, prices are in euro because I'm on the border View attachment 1022858

oooft whys p&k so dear when its mineral? can anyone tell me what value a tonne of suckler cow dung is worth now after seeing this list?

 

[ridger]

oooft whys p&k so dear when its mineral? can anyone tell me what value a tonne of suckler cow dung is worth now after seeing this list?

Wonder are there many taking the advantage of the 20 euro discount

 

[Bossfarmer]

People will need to eat, and there's going to be a huge food shortage this coming winter

Even if many farmers weren't already contemplating cutting back after fert prices quadrupled, the missing wheat that won't be getting harvested in the Ukraine this year accounts for 20% of the world's annual production.

Food inflation will be enormous.

If we can weather this financial storm, some of that inflation will trickle down to our farmgate prices. Whether it's a big enough trickle to survive the input cost increases....... time will tell.....

ukraines grain will be harvested it might sit in sheds/ports across there but eventually it will be dumped onto the world market, this is the worry

 

[ridger]

ukraines grain will be harvested it might sit in sheds/ports across there but eventually it will be dumped onto the world market, this is the worry

It will only be harvested if its planted I thought was the worry

 

[Bossfarmer]

It will only be harvested if its planted I thought was the worry

most of their cereal is winter crop so its already in its just the spring crop which may but may not be held up

 

[Hampton]

Tbf if cattle prices do not drop its not so bad, cut fert by 50% and dont use a massive amount of fuel on a spring calving suckler herd anyway. Creep will be painfull later on but its only for a couple of months and cows are 100% forage fed. If cattle prices started to drop it would be a worry but looks unlikely.

I suppose it depends on where the cattle price goes.
Been hearing rumours it could be 4.50-4.70 by June?

 

[ridger]

I suppose it depends on where the cattle price goes.
Been hearing rumours it could be 4.50-4.70 by June?

Could go the other way, butchers I supply Are seeing a shift to chicken and pork as money tightens

 

[daveydiesel1]

Me da was at armoy mart last night and he said the store prices were well back. Place was bunged more than normal with cattle. Id say theres going to be a pretty big reduction in numbers which hopefully will mean better prices and as equally important hopefully will reduce the meal required so bring the grain back a bit.

 

[Henarar]

People will need to eat, and there's going to be a huge food shortage this coming winter

Even if many farmers weren't already contemplating cutting back after fert prices quadrupled, the missing wheat that won't be getting harvested in the Ukraine this year accounts for 20% of the world's annual production.

Food inflation will be enormous.

If we can weather this financial storm, some of that inflation will trickle down to our farmgate prices. Whether it's a big enough trickle to survive the input cost increases....... time will tell.....

yep the really poor will suffer, not bothered about the rest, perhaps they will have to give up their sky package

 

[le bon paysan]

34% an at the local co op, over 1000 Euros a tonne. In stock.

Pass for now!

 

[Henarar]

34% an at the local co op, over 1000 Euros a tonne. In stock.

Pass for now!

For now,
what would make you change your mind ?