I can’t see prices lifting much at all
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Dave6170
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- Watten, caithness
Put fibrophos on. Wont be chancing anything else is the risk of snow and frost is past. Last year we put grazing stuff on and the wind and snow in April burnt it all off! Can't afford that this year
I was thinking about putting some urea on but……
livestock 1
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I haven’t seen anyone out with fert but they will be appearing soon
tullah
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- Linconshire
Based on a 3t crop of wheat, it would be useful to have charts or graphs showing the breakeven point at various wheat and N prices. Also to show optimum N rate.
I may save some for next year.
I may save some for next year.
Looks like the last RB209 charts from AHDB need another update...
TheAN platinum high was £863 and wheat gold £300
Making some back of fag packet calculations, would predict Nitrogen demand destruction for the 22/23 crop to be around 20% even at £1,000/mt for AN*
You've got to compare like for like; all inputs v all outputs. Easier for 21/22 season since many had the chance to buy AN below £300 back in the day. I'd also assume nil carry over into the 22/23 season due to tight supply today.
*inhibited Granular Urea looks like being a more cost effective option. Most Nitrates are produced in regions where gas is $50/MMBTU. Most Urea available to the UK and Irish markets is produced using gas below $10/MMBTU. Using inhibited Urea is a more or less straight unit value equation so £1,000/mt for AN should put Urea at £1,333. With the latest FOB Egypt levels at close to $1,100/mt, I'd suppose it could be on farm for the same £1,000/mt
Lots of people might know the PRICE; very few appear to know the VALUE
The
Making some back of fag packet calculations, would predict Nitrogen demand destruction for the 22/23 crop to be around 20% even at £1,000/mt for AN*
You've got to compare like for like; all inputs v all outputs. Easier for 21/22 season since many had the chance to buy AN below £300 back in the day. I'd also assume nil carry over into the 22/23 season due to tight supply today.
*inhibited Granular Urea looks like being a more cost effective option. Most Nitrates are produced in regions where gas is $50/MMBTU. Most Urea available to the UK and Irish markets is produced using gas below $10/MMBTU. Using inhibited Urea is a more or less straight unit value equation so £1,000/mt for AN should put Urea at £1,333. With the latest FOB Egypt levels at close to $1,100/mt, I'd suppose it could be on farm for the same £1,000/mt
Lots of people might know the PRICE; very few appear to know the VALUE
Is this what you have been told your self, or though someone else?
Really??
It's dead simple to do the price Vs return calculation for the silage needed to feed next winters beef cattle....
It ranges from huge loss to bankruptcy
Wonder if it's too late to expand the farm 5 fold and go organic?
Qms don’t allow Fibrophos.
bobajob
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- Sw Scotland
A text from the rep but not a confirmed price. He thought that's what it would be at opening time today
Dave6170
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- Watten, caithness
- Location
- Stratford on Avon
Very easy to do a spread sheet and come up with X - Y = Z but at these figures it only takes a drought and instead of 9 ton / ha you end up with 6 ton and it's oblivion
So with all the farmers desperate to put fert in the shed for this year or next will CF bring new season fert prices forwards, will they say let's try a figure which is sort of scary but only a bit more than what folk have had to pay this last couple of months open the market in the middle of the week and close on the Friday and let's see if we can lure some into the 3 day spending spree ,
And why not today or next Wed
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- Stratford on Avon
Thinking on my above post . I have enough fert in the shed for this season and if I'm careful enough to make a start into next season , I admit that I put the feelers out on Monday for a load of urea which I heard was in the 700's but I didnt try hard enough it seems,
So at what price will I bite for next season , Nitram at 800 +.
I might wait 6 or 8 months
So at what price will I bite for next season , Nitram at 800 +.
I might wait 6 or 8 months
- Location
- Northumberland
Didn't you know that these prices only apply to arable farmers? All you have to do is present your livestock credentials (part of a cow cleaning hiding around the back of your boilersuit) to access the rates for users of feed grains.It's dead simple to do the price Vs return calculation for the silage needed to feed next winters beef cattle....
It ranges from huge loss to bankruptcy
Wonder if it's too late to expand the farm 5 fold and go organic?
a wise farmer on a zoom other day said at current wheat , and putting normal amounts of fert
will stand 1.11 p kg
don’t know his workings or yields ,
I found this useful
N-Calculate - wheat nitrogen response calculator | Yara UK
This calculator uses nitrogen response data to calculate the optimum rate of nitrogen at different wheat and nitrogen prices and also calculates the mar...
www.yara.co.uk
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