Fieldbee or FDJ?

[ERH Services Ltd]

Whats the problem Alex?
FJD global sales director and the Vice P of FJD called me today wanting to talk about coming back.
I can get your question answered.
Cheers

 

[E_B]

Whats the problem Alex?
FJD global sales director and the Vice P of FJD called me today wanting to talk about coming back.
I can get your question answered.
Cheers

Well that would be a turn up for the books... I hope that happens as you offered great service and shifted units of a then unknown brand.

Problem is just an offset of about 6-8cm down one side of the tractor that recalibration doesn't correct. The weird thing is no settings or positioning or anything changed when it started doing it. I remeasured the half distance between globes and entered a slightly more accurate figure but that didn't change anything. Resecured the IMU and made no difference. I mitigated the issue for the most part by keeping my work on the right side of the tractor during drilling, but obviously not ideal.

Anyway, over winter I'll have another play around and try to sort it, perhaps with some suggestions from someone in support, but if you end up back in the fold then that would be the ideal scenario for everyone, including all the customers who purchased units through you

 

[ERH Services Ltd]

All pushed up the chain for you!!! I will keep you informed

 

[andyinv]

Whats the problem Alex?
FJD global sales director and the Vice P of FJD called me today wanting to talk about coming back.
I can get your question answered.
Cheers

Probably should delete all the posts where you were criticising them then?

 

[ERH Services Ltd]

Probably should delete all the posts where you were criticising them then?

I didn’t say I was going back but they want me to

 

[e3120]

I know nothing of Elliot, CNC, FJD or fieldbee, but hopefully this olive branch is recognition that the less common brands will only make headway with enthusiastic and knowledgeable local support.

With the big brands there is lots of experience (and cost) that goes with the volume sold. The AOG route fits best for those that will eventually support themselves and others.

It's good there's a middle way, even if I'm hoping to skip it from trimble to AOG.

 

[clbarclay]

AOG is like a therapy group for people suffering from obsessive compulsive tinkering?

The difficulty with some of the big brands (and probably a lot of smaller ones) is finding that expertise when you need it. With AOG it is possible to directly talk with people who develop it. That situation is not unique to open source non commercial projects, but it is rather rare in the commercial world. I feel that those companies that do are much better off for it.

 

[Dave645]

ok Fieldbee update, they seem to have ironed out the bugs they have updated their apps and setup is simpler and seems to now work great, while I don't think it's in its final iteration from what I saw last time I used it its capable of good accuracy, as my kit only cost me £2500 with RTK unlocked as standard, and working with their base station can do so in radio mode or mobile data I think that with the simple install and I think it's now working from the cab roof like most systems. it's an option I can now recommend.

while everyone will have to make their own choices, for me as I have their base station and support has been very good, I would say it's a no brainer, but even without that I could see you moving it from tractor to tractor with loom kits at about £180 each and steering wheel adaptors at about £45 each and anti-ration brackets simple to make. you could have one system for multiple tractors very simply as the software now saves multiple tractor setups which can be swopped in seconds in the app.
as the screen is an android tablet you can buy for £200 on amazon it's not even expensive to replace them and the app uses cloud backups so all data saved on one is always on the other so make an AB path on one, it will be saved to the app on both screens if you have them or you need to replace a missing or broken tablet.

hope that helps if you need info, I suggest you contact them direct, or go to their website.

 

[FJD UK]

A few photos from this Autumn using FJD.

Drilling inbetween last year's maize rows on a very step field:

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I do have a minor unresolved issue that I've not been responded to about, although I haven't chased it particularly hard. Hopefully the UK support network will be improved because it is a good product.

Please drop me a message and I'll get this looked at for you

 

[Sprayer 1]

What price are these auto steer systems now?
I keep getting ads on Facebook saying 15% off ,but off what?

 

[ERH Services Ltd]

What price are these auto steer systems now?
I keep getting ads on Facebook saying 15% off ,but off what?

I have a new FJD AT1 Kit available for £3995

 

[ERH Services Ltd]

Or the CHCNAV kits we sell are £4995

 

[steveR]

I have a new FJD AT1 Kit available for £3995

Great bits of kit, easy DIY install.

Transformative really.

 

[Lieven]

What price are these auto steer systems now?
I keep getting ads on Facebook saying 15% off ,but off what?

Fieldbee team will contact you with actual prices if you leave your mail adress or phone number .

 

[ERH Services Ltd]

www.erhservices.co.uk

 

[Dave645]

Fieldbee have put there system on offer 40% off, so around £2700.
https://www.fieldbee.com/
The price is on the Facebook advert even if it doesn’t shown on there site, without requesting it.
But if the Facebook advert is right it’s around £2700 for there new kit.

 

[ERH Services Ltd]

Fieldbee have put there system on offer 40% off, so around £2700.
https://www.fieldbee.com/
The price is on the Facebook advert even if it doesn’t shown on there site, without requesting it.
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Please let us know how you get on with this if you decide to try it.

I fear they are slashing prices just before going out of business?

They have spent a lot of money in the past few months on facebook adverts and I wonder how they can reduce the price this much without some sort of catch?

 

[Dave645]

Please let us know how you get on with this if you decide to try it.

I fear they are slashing prices just before going out of business?

They have spent a lot of money in the past few months on facebook adverts and I wonder how they can reduce the price this much without some sort of catch?

I have one now, they are updating it all the time, the latest update allows for cab or bonnet Insall, the screen is either your phone if its android, or an android tablet not sure if this is in the price or not. if you need data for corrections then you either get a tablet with a sim card slot, or use your phone data via hotspot sharing, which is what I do now as it's in my data plan so zero extra cost.

they are getting ready for headland turn, you now can set max steering angle, which can be worked out or measured. the software is now hot swap, so you can setup multiple tractors and machines ready for jobs. in one tablet or phone, all data is cloud stored so update info on one tablet they all share it so jobs machines are in your account not just the tablet.

I still have mine on the bonnet, where i first put it, I had to dial down settings sensitivity to avoid over corrections, but a few mins later it was working well. the new update comes with default settings but they were over correcting because I assume they expected them to be from the cab roof not the bonnet. to be honest the bonnet was a simple location for me to do, and sensitivity is better it picks up direction shifts faster there.
setup and calibration have had an upgrade, adding new stuff like turning angle and it check lists calibration items so if you change one you only have to rerun that one not the full set.

I am happy. as some screens for the Trimble systems costs similar to this kit.
my last android tablet was this one I only paid £215 at that time. my older fieldbee kit had a Samsung tablet but a rugged one in the Samsung range. if you want to be able to use a sim in the tablet you need it to have LTE
samsung android tablet
but i got this one and it works fine.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09LYYQTX1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

then a case, this was mine
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0B6247XTB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[Dave645]

I fear they are slashing prices just before going out of business?

They have spent a lot of money in the past few months on facebook adverts and I wonder how they can reduce the price this much without some sort of catch?

I don't know, but I will say, I doubt they cost more than half that to make. its software that's king, hardware is in the hundreds a wheel motor are under £500, a wire loom a few hundred, anti rotation bracket £10 steering spline, £50
then their receiver, again I would expect under £1000.

in reality, they are likely still doubling system costs even on sale, as software is king.
but I note they have put up app subscriptions. I got a 3 year one at the old money

if they are after subscriptions that means they want users, so selling hardware at less profit for more long term users is likely what they are gambling on.
they also have to compete with chinas gear.

i will add they asked me if I knew anyone that maybe intrested in being a uk dealer for them, that doesnt smack of closing more agresive expansion. I suggested them getting there stuff into Kramp, as that makes the kit available from any agricultural dealer that deals with kramp now.
they asked me, because I give them lots of feedback, and suggestions.

 

[JimAndy]

at that price i might give it a go