Food Banks Whats Going On?

[Lowland1]

Eton?

yep at the time you could put a child into Eton at 35000 pounds a year or full time care in his own home at more than five thousand pounds per month.

 

[Lowland1]

Rent a nice spot in the Philippines near my relatives for a tenth of the rent here. 20+ degrees in the sea. No heating bills to worry about.

I wanted him to come here. The weathers good and you can get 24 hour care for less than 500 pounds per month. However Line Dancing at Hemswell trumped that and then it was too late and you get trapped by the NHS and private care.

 

[zero]

What price are they though?

Did a quick google, start at a whopping 200 grand the ones that came up. So not whats needed round here but might make more lower priced housing available elsewhere?

 

[teslacoils]

I wanted him to come here. The weathers good and you can get 24 hour care for less than 500 pounds per month. However Line Dancing at Hemswell trumped that and then it was too late and you get trapped by the NHS and private care.

Come for the maypole. Stay for the line dancing.

 

[Timbo]

yep at the time you could put a child into Eton at 35000 pounds a year or full time care in his own home at more than five thousand pounds per month.

My mothers care is approaching £60k / yr.

 

[Bokey]

Did a quick google, start at a whopping 200 grand the ones that came up. So not whats needed round here but might make more lower priced housing available elsewhere?

An that's not to bad you can soon see why the cost of labour is so high and why the country isn't competitive anymore

 

[Bokey]

....and?

They should be payed well while working but see to there own pensions and finances in later life like the rest of us

 

[Lowland1]

My mothers care is approaching £60k / yr.

A lot of my father in laws Indian doctor friends in Kenya left to go to the UK to set up care homes. They have made fortunes. A similar scenario to private landlords.

 

[Bokey]

My mothers care is approaching £60k / yr.

An she could be sat next to someone who has saved nothing and the state pays?

 

[BrianV]

with 243,000 houses a year currently going up on average it is quite obvious we should have a large majority spare. Remember most of these economic migrants you talk about will be living frequently very densely often ten of more to a house.
All these figures of migrants arriving ignore this fact.
It is UK citizens living in such low density which is the cause of the issue, like my friend I quoted above who lives alone in their 3 bed property which in Bradford would probably house 10

That obviously is not the case, if there is an over supply of houses rents are bound to fall as landlords start chasing tenants.
This can only get worse when the war affected Ukrainian husbands with surly teenage sons start turning up to join their wives in some old dears back bedroom, this will inevitably create a further need for even more houses.
We haven't even started to see the 2 million or so Hong Kong residents the Tories have given permission to come here yet, if you've got spare cash buy a house prices are only going to go one way!

 

[Bongodog]

I know its wrong to generalise, but:

We are looking for part time staff at present, 2 weeks ago we had an applicant:

Long term unemployed, he came in to see us and to be blunt he made it more or less impossible to employ him:
Major issue was that he was not happy that due to moving from the next village to ours his daughter was not going to the secondary school where a free bus is provided resulting in her having to walk/bike to school, its 2 miles with a lit cyclepath beside the road all the way. Theres at least 30 children from the village now choosing to attend this school and most of them cycle, its ok for them, but seemingly not safe for his daughter who needs Dad to take her to school for 8.45 and picked up each day at 3.15pm.
His next beef was that if he started work anything he earnt over the benefit threshold level he would lose a percentage of his universal credit. the restart scheme works such that he would always be better off, but he felt he should be entitled to all his benefit plus all his earnings.

If this is the prevailing attitude we are surely doomed.

In years gone by if you didn't earn enough in your full time job and overtime wasn't available you looked for a bit extra. Now you head down the foodbank.
As to comments about food and energy bills, generally they are a fraction of what they used to be, as to clothing, many on here will remember their mum's patching knees on trousers, darning jumpers etc, clothing is now so cheap there's lots of stuff thrown out that has never even had its first wash.

A few years ago I had one employee who would routinely turn up to do concreting etc in Timberland clothing and such like, meanwhile I was wearing either Primark or stuff my wife had condemned as no longer suitable for being seen in. Eventually he went bankrupt when he couldn't pay off his £60k credit card bill, all spent on frivolous crap.

 

[BrianV]

I know its wrong to generalise, but:

We are looking for part time staff at present, 2 weeks ago we had an applicant:

Long term unemployed, he came in to see us and to be blunt he made it more or less impossible to employ him:
Major issue was that he was not happy that due to moving from the next village to ours his daughter was not going to the secondary school where a free bus is provided resulting in her having to walk/bike to school, its 2 miles with a lit cyclepath beside the road all the way. Theres at least 30 children from the village now choosing to attend this school and most of them cycle, its ok for them, but seemingly not safe for his daughter who needs Dad to take her to school for 8.45 and picked up each day at 3.15pm.
His next beef was that if he started work anything he earnt over the benefit threshold level he would lose a percentage of his universal credit. the restart scheme works such that he would always be better off, but he felt he should be entitled to all his benefit plus all his earnings.

If this is the prevailing attitude we are surely doomed.

In years gone by if you didn't earn enough in your full time job and overtime wasn't available you looked for a bit extra. Now you head down the foodbank.
As to comments about food and energy bills, generally they are a fraction of what they used to be, as to clothing, many on here will remember their mum's patching knees on trousers, darning jumpers etc, clothing is now so cheap there's lots of stuff thrown out that has never even had its first wash.

A few years ago I had one employee who would routinely turn up to do concreting etc in Timberland clothing and such like, meanwhile I was wearing either Primark or stuff my wife had condemned as no longer suitable for being seen in. Eventually he went bankrupt when he couldn't pay off his £60k credit card bill, all spent on frivolous crap.

As for clothes you can now go to any red cross shop & get virtually new clothes for a fraction of the price paid in the shops, I know because the wife & I spend many a happy Saturday choosing expensive clothes for next to nothing in there, furniture too!

 

[Bokey]

I know its wrong to generalise, but:

We are looking for part time staff at present, 2 weeks ago we had an applicant:

Long term unemployed, he came in to see us and to be blunt he made it more or less impossible to employ him:
Major issue was that he was not happy that due to moving from the next village to ours his daughter was not going to the secondary school where a free bus is provided resulting in her having to walk/bike to school, its 2 miles with a lit cyclepath beside the road all the way. Theres at least 30 children from the village now choosing to attend this school and most of them cycle, its ok for them, but seemingly not safe for his daughter who needs Dad to take her to school for 8.45 and picked up each day at 3.15pm.
His next beef was that if he started work anything he earnt over the benefit threshold level he would lose a percentage of his universal credit. the restart scheme works such that he would always be better off, but he felt he should be entitled to all his benefit plus all his earnings.

If this is the prevailing attitude we are surely doomed.

In years gone by if you didn't earn enough in your full time job and overtime wasn't available you looked for a bit extra. Now you head down the foodbank.
As to comments about food and energy bills, generally they are a fraction of what they used to be, as to clothing, many on here will remember their mum's patching knees on trousers, darning jumpers etc, clothing is now so cheap there's lots of stuff thrown out that has never even had its first wash.

A few years ago I had one employee who would routinely turn up to do concreting etc in Timberland clothing and such like, meanwhile I was wearing either Primark or stuff my wife had condemned as no longer suitable for being seen in. Eventually he went bankrupt when he couldn't pay off his £60k credit card bill, all spent on frivolous crap.

The benefits system is a disaster how much would you be paying him if you don't mind me asking?

 

[thesilentone]

That obviously is not the case, if there is an over supply of houses rents are bound to fall as landlords start chasing tenants.
This can only get worse when the war affected Ukrainian husbands with surly teenage sons start turning up to join their wives in some old dears back bedroom, this will inevitably create a further need for even more houses.
We haven't even started to see the 2 million or so Hong Kong residents the Tories have given permission to come here yet, if you've got spare cash buy a house prices are only going to go one way!

Correct, supply and demand will dictate.

However, the genie is now out of the bottle, and the number of new houses built in the last 10 years is way out of kilter with the growth in population, so the demand exists.

Social/Council housing is a big political football. Councils owning large housing stock, also hold high assets on the balance sheet, and have the ability to borrow lots of loot. As far as many politicians are concerned a big no-no.

 

[Lowland1]

I know its wrong to generalise, but:

We are looking for part time staff at present, 2 weeks ago we had an applicant:

Long term unemployed, he came in to see us and to be blunt he made it more or less impossible to employ him:
Major issue was that he was not happy that due to moving from the next village to ours his daughter was not going to the secondary school where a free bus is provided resulting in her having to walk/bike to school, its 2 miles with a lit cyclepath beside the road all the way. Theres at least 30 children from the village now choosing to attend this school and most of them cycle, its ok for them, but seemingly not safe for his daughter who needs Dad to take her to school for 8.45 and picked up each day at 3.15pm.
His next beef was that if he started work anything he earnt over the benefit threshold level he would lose a percentage of his universal credit. the restart scheme works such that he would always be better off, but he felt he should be entitled to all his benefit plus all his earnings.

If this is the prevailing attitude we are surely doomed.

In years gone by if you didn't earn enough in your full time job and overtime wasn't available you looked for a bit extra. Now you head down the foodbank.
As to comments about food and energy bills, generally they are a fraction of what they used to be, as to clothing, many on here will remember their mum's patching knees on trousers, darning jumpers etc, clothing is now so cheap there's lots of stuff thrown out that has never even had its first wash.

A few years ago I had one employee who would routinely turn up to do concreting etc in Timberland clothing and such like, meanwhile I was wearing either Primark or stuff my wife had condemned as no longer suitable for being seen in. Eventually he went bankrupt when he couldn't pay off his £60k credit card bill, all spent on frivolous crap.

And it’s not going to get better now that the Conservative Party wants to be the party of the common man.

 

[OGB]

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[Pieces_of_Eight]

How we can have 14 years compulsory education and have folk who can't cook basic meals, read or count is beyond me.

I cannot possibly like this enough.

Get education fixed and the rest of the problems will largely fix themselves.

What proportion of people in jail or living on benefits in deprived areas left school with a list of qualifications?

Give young people the skills that employers want and everyone will share the prosperity.

 

[OGB]

Certain MP's make my urine boil

 

[som farmer]

It’s a valid point the UK has an aging population that’s not really contributing. Once upon a time people retired at 65 and died a few years later now they don’t .

when the OAP started, av length of claim, was 18 months, now probably 18 years.
And it must be a nightmare for the treasury, to absorb that. I now draw my pension, and l love it.

 

[teslacoils]

I cannot possibly like this enough.

Get education fixed and the rest of the problems will largely fix themselves.

What proportion of people in jail or living on benefits in deprived areas left school with a list of qualifications?

Give young people the skills that employers want and everyone will share the prosperity.

I strongly, strongly urge folk to become parent Governors. Because it's very difficult to get govs who are not in some way aligned to the education sector. My child's secondary Habe just advertised for their second parent gov vacancy and it's got another load of teachers apply. If you add the Ht and local authority and staff governors then they're all singing off the woke guardian hymn sheet. Which is why you get all this vegan crap in schools. And hours talking about feelings rather than working out fractions.