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Ford 4610 lass of traction

Sprayer

Member
Location
South Derbyshire
Are the tyres cross plys ?
That is a good point and remember there are tyres and there are tyres, some makes perform better than others. Also what pressure are they, you want as much weight on the back as possible and tyre pressure as low as possible. Also a wider tyre is not always the answer for grip on heavy ground, too much surface area to bite in.
 

GavinJ

Member
Location
Powys
Also a wider tyre is not always the answer for grip on heavy ground, too much surface area to bite in.
That is my concern. They are unnecessary really for the work it does. When mowing hay I have to set the mower right over otherwise it catches the tyres when raised.
 

GavinJ

Member
Location
Powys
Thinking completely out of the box here, what about a 4wd conversion?
I almost did that about 8 years ago but there is a lot of things involved from what i remember and sourcing all parts is a nightmare. Even the pick up hitch has to be changed. Buying a scrap 4wd as donor may be an option as at least everything would be there.
 

Boohoo

Member
Location
Newtownabbey
I almost did that about 8 years ago but there is a lot of things involved from what i remember and sourcing all parts is a nightmare. Even the pick up hitch has to be changed. Buying a scrap 4wd as donor may be an option as at least everything would be there.
Buying a donor is the best option because there are a number of different axle and drop box combinations.
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
choice of 2 here, why bother changing your own to 4wd the work that will be in doing it will take to next summer,

and both in Wales so handy to you


 
Having had a 2wd 4600 on a loader for years, i know where you are coming from, new tyres will make a big difference, dont think there will be much difference between the wide and narrow wheels and tyres, maybe a set of wheel weights would help, im not so keen on water filled tyres, as they tend to sap power, and if you only have 64hp to start with, better to try and keep most of them.
4wd would idealy be the way to go, a 4610/4630 4wd wouldn't be much more clumsy than what you have atm.
 

GavinJ

Member
Location
Powys
Having had a 2wd 4600 on a loader for years, i know where you are coming from, new tyres will make a big difference, dont think there will be much difference between the wide and narrow wheels and tyres, maybe a set of wheel weights would help, im not so keen on water filled tyres, as they tend to sap power, and if you only have 64hp to start with, better to try and keep most of them.
4wd would idealy be the way to go, a 4610/4630 4wd wouldn't be much more clumsy than what you have atm.
Thanks.
We need to get a 4wd but want about 100hp so that would do the loader work in the fields leaving the 4610 in the sheds where 2wd is ok. Spending on a direct 4wd replacement / conversion still leaves me wanting bigger for field work. I think the one tyre still has some water in it from before I bought it (15 years ago) but not sure how much. the other is dry as had a new tube 18 months ago. Will have to look out for some wheel weights as taking a weight block off continually is a pain.
 
I've been running a 7610 as a main tractor for the last 25 ish years, i put a new engine in it (latest series 3 with engine improvements o er the old one), and recently bought a ford 6640, and have turboed that to 110hp, the 40 series uses nearly 1/2 the fuel the 7610 did on the same sort of work (7610 doing 9-10.5 lph v 6640 4.5-5.5 lph), maybe not a deal breaker when your looking for a newer 100hp tractor, but something to consider.
Have you considered putting a weight block on an A frame ?
 

GavinJ

Member
Location
Powys
I've been running a 7610 as a main tractor for the last 25 ish years, i put a new engine in it (latest series 3 with engine improvements o er the old one), and recently bought a ford 6640, and have turboed that to 110hp, the 40 series uses nearly 1/2 the fuel the 7610 did on the same sort of work (7610 doing 9-10.5 lph v 6640 4.5-5.5 lph), maybe not a deal breaker when your looking for a newer 100hp tractor, but something to consider.
Have you considered putting a weight block on an A frame ?
You have hit the nail on the head with the 7610 as that is what I am thinking. Did consider a new Solis but not convinced long term. The A frame is on the cards I just need to convert the one roller back to trailed not mounted and that will release an A frame for other things.
 

Baker9

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
N Ireland BT47
They are Goodyear radials
Goodyear radials when they age, spread and are wider than when new. We had the same size on a DB996 and it would spin all the time and it had no loader fitted. The tractor was next to useless for any work. We put a new set of tyres on it and it was a different tractor, the new tyres were about 4 inches narrower.
For working on steep ground with a loader 4wd in necessary. I bought a 1990 70 34 Renault with a chilton loader for £6K 4 years ago, so a change of tractor need not cost a fortune. If you look you will find something suitable.
 

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