Will Blackburn
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no just boring 
I find that amazing. She must be the first PT on the planet to say that, every other PT will try to convince you of the opposite because they want you to fall under their spell.
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- NSW, Newstralya
sheās a sports & fitness coach - she knows you canāt perform at your best as an athlete or have good long term quality of life into old age WITHOUT a healthy diet . . .
As part of her coaching & training she ALWAYS stresses the importance of healthy lifestyle & diet.
Any PT worth their salt should be just as concerned about diet, sleep, mental health etc etc as exercise, if you want to take a holistic approach to health & fitness.
You canāt take a reductionist approach ( as modern pharma medicine does ) and look at one aspect without considering everything else.
Yes, the GP can give you something for Type 2 diabetes, or cholesterol or depression etc etc - but a healthy lifestyle with moderate exercise, fresh food, water & adequate sleep will go a long way to curing or minimising so many āmodernā ailments . . .
But nah, itās just easier to take no responsibility & take a pill that fixes everything . . .
I personally think that gyms / PTs / healthy eating plans etc etc should be subsidised by the NHS / Medicare, or maybe written down on the prescription pad instead of drugs - it would be a lot cheaper in the long run & create a healthier society than the prescription drug dependent one we have now.
I canāt remember the figures or how it compares to here, but I once heard that a major % of the UK population over 30 were on regular prescription medication. I find that shocking
I am 55 & I know a lot of people my age here are on medication or have ālifestyleā related medical issues. It is just soooo avoidable
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- NSW, Newstralya
The only regular prescription medication I have ever been on is anti depressants for about 5 years, but I decided I didnāt want to be dependent on them ( & their effectiveness seemed to be reducing ) so I stopped taking them over 10 years ago & have learnt to manage it myself, largely through better self awareness, knowing the triggers, regular exercise & meditation / yoga. The side effects of that is my physical health is better also.
We need to take back the responsibility of our health, rather than asking the NHS for another pill . . .
We need to take back the responsibility of our health, rather than asking the NHS for another pill . . .
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Ding-Ding poached eggs are great... Minute in the Micro water only.... crack 2 Eggs, Minute and a bit in the Micro good to go...
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Not all. It's personal choice. If they're happy bring disgusting lazy fat f**ks, that's on them.
Big fat lies about diet and exercise was on C5 in the last few days. I usually avoid these types of programmes like the plague but I thought Iāll watch 5 or 10 mins. I watched the whole thing. They had quite a large number of "experts" giving their thoughts which led to quite a few comments not entirely within the right context, but actually it wasnāt that bad.
There were the usual array of "dieticians" and "nutritionists and bloggers" but there were also some real experts like Malhotra, Chatterjee and Unwin being allowed a platform on prime TV. I actually found it quite refreshing that some of the old accepted knowledge was being shown as outdated and wrong or at the very least questionable now. It wasnāt a lot more than a series of soundbites but it was nicely edited together into a reasonable narrative. I mean, thereās a long way to go but if C5 are now starting to wonder maybe thereās signs of a real shift in how the public are "educated".
There were the usual array of "dieticians" and "nutritionists and bloggers" but there were also some real experts like Malhotra, Chatterjee and Unwin being allowed a platform on prime TV. I actually found it quite refreshing that some of the old accepted knowledge was being shown as outdated and wrong or at the very least questionable now. It wasnāt a lot more than a series of soundbites but it was nicely edited together into a reasonable narrative. I mean, thereās a long way to go but if C5 are now starting to wonder maybe thereās signs of a real shift in how the public are "educated".
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- southern riverina Australia
it's so easy to play the victim though. I live with one...She's on every friggen pill known to man kind. Has more specialists than days in the week and has been "post natal" for 21 fĆ¹Ć§kiƱg years.....Never once tried to get off the shĆ¬Å„....yeah we all have bad days from time to time.. Some deal with it, some cry poor me poor me give me another pill...
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Clive a quarter pounder with cheese in the bun is 518 Kcalories add a portion of chips 34Kc
So a little over a third of your daily needs
Add a milkshake though another 350Kc
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Be very careful about blaming sugar for all our ills.
The body gets hungry because blood sugar falls. No fall in blood sugar , no hunger.
The body feels full for two reasons, one the body has been filled by bulk, whether this is large quantities of high or low calorie food. Mcdonalds, sunday roast or a veritable vegetarians salad feast
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The other reason the body loses the urge to eat is blood sugar rising, the old thing your mother used to preach against , a chocolate treat, it will ruin your appetite!
Eating sugar kills the appetite dead, however our friendly fast food shysters have a common friend along with the preachers of a āhealthy lifestyleā aspartame and other sugar substitutes like saccharin. These will ensure you carry on eating, so that diet cola bought with the burger and chips , will want you to go on and eat some high calorie desert.
Sugar consumption in the UK has more than halved in the last 60 years ( including syrup substitutes ) meanwhile the number of fat people has multiplied exponentially.
The law of unintended consequences.
The body gets hungry because blood sugar falls. No fall in blood sugar , no hunger.
The body feels full for two reasons, one the body has been filled by bulk, whether this is large quantities of high or low calorie food. Mcdonalds, sunday roast or a veritable vegetarians salad feast
.The other reason the body loses the urge to eat is blood sugar rising, the old thing your mother used to preach against , a chocolate treat, it will ruin your appetite!
Eating sugar kills the appetite dead, however our friendly fast food shysters have a common friend along with the preachers of a āhealthy lifestyleā aspartame and other sugar substitutes like saccharin. These will ensure you carry on eating, so that diet cola bought with the burger and chips , will want you to go on and eat some high calorie desert.
Sugar consumption in the UK has more than halved in the last 60 years ( including syrup substitutes ) meanwhile the number of fat people has multiplied exponentially.
The law of unintended consequences.
Blood sugar is tied in with insulin. Eating lots of simple carbs makes blood sugar (and thus insulin) spike hugely several times during the day, then you get the comedown and low blood sugar level making you hungry. So you snack. Eating fat doesnāt give you anywhere near the same spike, but lasts waaay longer so your blood sugar (and insulin levels) are much lower throughout the day but more stable. Result: much less hunger. One method of eating can and does lead to insulin resistance, the other doesnāt. Not that Iām advocating just eating fat of course.Be very careful about blaming sugar for all our ills.
The body gets hungry because blood sugar falls. No fall in blood sugar , no hunger.
The body feels full for two reasons, one the body has been filled by bulk, whether this is large quantities of high or low calorie food. Mcdonalds, sunday roast or a veritable vegetarians salad feast
The other reason the body loses the urge to eat is blood sugar rising, the old thing your mother used to preach against , a chocolate treat, it will ruin your appetite!
Eating sugar kills the appetite dead, however our friendly fast food shysters have a common friend along with the preachers of a āhealthy lifestyleā aspartame and other sugar substitutes like saccharin. These will ensure you carry on eating, so that diet cola bought with the burger and chips , will want you to go on and eat some high calorie desert.
Sugar consumption in the UK has more than halved in the last 60 years ( including syrup substitutes ) meanwhile the number of fat people has multiplied exponentially.
The law of unintended consequences.
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Yes I am not arguing with that at all, what I am pointing out is hunger comes from low blood sugar, removing sugar from food removes the instant lift eating gives. Even relatively simple carbs take time to be converted to glucose.
The other thing about sugar of course it makes high fibre products like muesli far more attractive and this encourages better eating habits. For years wondered how the Austrians ate the stuff with no sugar until I went there and discovered they smother it with condensed milk
At the end of the day of course it is a simple equation of calories in and calories out, and with todays sedentary lifestyles we just do not need these high calorie foods. As a treat occasionally fine, but who would want to eat Christmas lunch every day of the year, but some people eat the equivalent.
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Can't you get enough more than enough natural sugar from fruit , question !Yes I am not arguing with that at all, what I am pointing out is hunger comes from low blood sugar, removing sugar from food removes the instant lift eating gives. Even relatively simple carbs take time to be converted to glucose.
The other thing about sugar of course it makes high fibre products like muesli far more attractive and this encourages better eating habits. For years wondered how the Austrians ate the stuff with no sugar until I went there and discovered they smother it with condensed milk
At the end of the day of course it is a simple equation of calories in and calories out, and with todays sedentary lifestyles we just do not need these high calorie foods. As a treat occasionally fine, but who would want to eat Christmas lunch every day of the year, but some people eat the equivalent.
Well it isn't as simple as calories though. There's a difference between calories when it's simple carbs or fat, and when you burn fat in an oven it yields more calories than carbs. And our bodies don't burn food in an oven. But I do get what you're trying to say. The other thing is, lots of people eat foods that are high in both simple carbs and fat, so they get the sugar hit and the excess of calories. Nature doesn't make foods like this, food companies do. This is where the problem lies, leading to insulin resistance because of the insulin spikes and the excess of blood glucose floating around inside them.Yes I am not arguing with that at all, what I am pointing out is hunger comes from low blood sugar, removing sugar from food removes the instant lift eating gives. Even relatively simple carbs take time to be converted to glucose.
The other thing about sugar of course it makes high fibre products like muesli far more attractive and this encourages better eating habits. For years wondered how the Austrians ate the stuff with no sugar until I went there and discovered they smother it with condensed milk
At the end of the day of course it is a simple equation of calories in and calories out, and with todays sedentary lifestyles we just do not need these high calorie foods. As a treat occasionally fine, but who would want to eat Christmas lunch every day of the year, but some people eat the equivalent.
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Plenty of calories but very little nutrition
really?how about an break down on whats actually in it ,
protien carb vit c calcium , would be obvous ones they will do for a start ,not like its all rice is it.
Will Blackburn
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Aseem Malhotra is an old boy from mine and my sonsā school. It take big cahoonas to say what he says, the establishment is against him.
His background drives him, both his parents were GPs and he saw through life and death how diet shapes you and your outcomes.
He lost his mother, she being of Indian heritage shunned meat products and loved sweet foodstuffs. Chronic diabetes and circulatory issues did for her.
Being a cardiologist he saw past the inferred link between dietary cholesterol and blood cholesterol.
Raised blood cholesterol is due to damage done by excess carbohydrates and unstable seed oils.
Being a farmer, why would you feed yourself a āfinishing rationā (a carbohydrate laden diet) and be surprised when you get fat?
Being a farmer, Malhotra and Co need supporting by all farming organisations, because there is a bright future in giving the population a healthy diet.
So much more value is returned to all farmers if people eat eggs and ham rather than corn chips.
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