Foresight Obesity System Map

Chris F

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Media
Location
Hammerwich
This was brought up at the OFC - it was part of a report used to find out why obesity exists in a population. I had no idea just how complex is was.

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A full scale version is here: https://assets.publishing.service.g..._data/file/296290/obesity-map-full-hi-res.pdf

50% of food we eat in this country is ultra processed. That really was all I needed to hear. But this is the full map.
 

Chris F

Staff Member
Media
Location
Hammerwich
Pretty bloody simple... Most of the population avoid any form of manual labor like it's the plague. Cook and eat REAL food and get off your lazy fat asses........simples.

Why is it a shock
You are what you eat
Takeaways no
Processed food no
All this pop chocolate crisps and cake no
Buy fresh food and cook it yourself ,
It's as simple as that, if your Thirsty then God gave you water

It's a shock as my map would have been a lot simpler and and been along the line of @cows sh#t me to tears

But a stats that stood out, veg market was worth £2.1bn and Confectionary £3.7bn.
 

ski

Member
This was brought up at the OFC - it was part of a report used to find out why obesity exists in a population. I had no idea just how complex is was.

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A full scale version is here: https://assets.publishing.service.g..._data/file/296290/obesity-map-full-hi-res.pdf

50% of food we eat in this country is ultra processed. That really was all I needed to hear. But this is the full map.
Oh Dear. Looks like somebody wants government funding to research and make the problem as complex as possible.

Food has become so cheap we do not value it properly.

Go into a goldsmiths workshop, how much 'waste' gold will you find, we know the answer and we know the reason.
 
Location
Ceredigion
It's a shock as my map would have been a lot simpler and and been along the line of @cows sh#t me to tears

But a stats that stood out, veg market was worth £2.1bn and Confectionary £3.7bn.
Problem is food as become a drug
I would love to pig out on chocolate and cake every day , but I had a health scare 15 years ago ,so the will to carry on living and stay healthy overrides the desire to eat junk food
 

Chris F

Staff Member
Media
Location
Hammerwich
Astounds me that some claim low socio economic folk can't afford "proper food" yet can smoke a pack a day at $55 a pack and drink a slab a week at $80.......priorities.........Agree with either a fat tax or Sugar tax. Or make fat fùçķs pay for their own health care....

Looks like we are getting an updated sugar tax and a salt tax in the UK. I think we need an ultra processed food tax, but apparently they are very difficult to define and therefore tax. Which is a shame, but might still happen.
 

Sheep

Member
Location
Northern Ireland
Looks like we are getting an updated sugar tax and a salt tax in the UK. I think we need an ultra processed food tax, but apparently they are very difficult to define and therefore tax. Which is a shame, but might still happen.

Ah yes, the old money will solve the problem method.


Tax for the aim of increasing tax income. I don't think I've ever seen anything in recent times from the govt encouraging me to eat healthy or exercise more. All I see is "we're going to charge you more for eating unhealthy", but not actually enough to actually discourage people.
 
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Clive

Staff Member
NFFN Member
Location
Lichfield
Problem is food as become a drug
I would love to pig out on chocolate and cake every day , but I had a health scare 15 years ago ,so the will to carry on living and stay healthy overrides the desire to eat junk food

its the most dangerous drug of the all IMO and the mostly like one to kill you judging by the chart I posted
 

Clive

Staff Member
NFFN Member
Location
Lichfield
Looks like we are getting an updated sugar tax and a salt tax in the UK. I think we need an ultra processed food tax, but apparently they are very difficult to define and therefore tax. Which is a shame, but might still happen.


throw in a carbon tax for good measure and we may see a more successful UK agriculture in the future
 

Clive

Staff Member
NFFN Member
Location
Lichfield
Ah yes, the old money will solve the problem method.


I think it does to a great extent - nothing changes peoples behaviour more than the cost

if fuel price was x10 I guarantee there would be less cars on the road and if flights we x20 the price there a lot less planes in the sky

I used less Glyphosate this autumn as its was more expensive - we all are influenced by cost
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
I think it does to a great extent - nothing changes peoples behaviour more than the cost

if fuel price was x10 I guarantee there would be less cars on the road and if flights we x20 the price there a lot less planes in the sky

I used less Glyphosate this autumn as its was more expensive - we all are influenced by cost

Cost is a stick. It works best with carrots.
The most important element is positive alternatives.

What none of this has taken into account is the recent huge increase in home delivery.
This has the 'double whammy' of increased use of takeways and less exercise. A lose lose lose for society.
 

Clive

Staff Member
NFFN Member
Location
Lichfield
Cost is a stick. It works best with carrots.
The most important element is positive alternatives.

What none of this has taken into account is the recent huge increase in home delivery.
This has the 'double whammy' of increased use of takeways and less exercise. A lose lose lose for society.

people need sticks IMO if you really want change

most know they should eat better, exercise more, drink less, fly less, drive less etc .............. but few do anything about it until they HAVE to
 

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