Gareth wyn Jones, ( the milkman ep 2 )

[Steevo]

Because farmers have to sell milk, can't be stored very well, very poor representation , easy target innit

But nobody has said that out right.

 

[GTB]

What if EVERY dairy farmer cut back production by 10%?

 

[Still Farming]

What if EVERY dairy farmer cut back production by 10%?

10% less milk !

 

[GTB]

10% less milk !

But same amount of income?

 

[Blod]

It would require trust and collaboration. A bit like every sheep farmer saying they won't sell under £1.90/kg.

 

[rc mx110]

What if EVERY dairy farmer cut back production by 10%?

farmers worst nightmare is another farmer

 

[GTB]

It would require trust and collaboration. A bit like every sheep farmer saying they won't sell under £1.90/kg.

It will never happen though. It's been tried before (with lamb) and some farmers will always give in before others. Maybe they have no choice though if they're skint.

 

[Blod]

It will never happen though. It's been tried before (with lamb) and some farmers will always give in before others. Maybe they have no choice though if they're skint.

We always have a choice though we don't always exercise it with full awareness.

 

[d williams]

Why milk as "loss leaders" in stores?
Why not something else -as good one to ask ?

Because it's a product that most as in 90%of people use it everyday along with bread apart from toilet paper can't think of anything with that must have/ need use

 

[Blod]

Because it's a product that most as in 90%of people use it everyday along with bread apart from toilet paper can't think of anything with that must have/ need use

A loss leader is going to be something you go and get maybe not daily anymore but often. Loo roll is relatively low cost and stores well so not really in the same league as milk. Plus many of us will freeze bread but not milk.

 

[GTB]

We always have a choice though we don't always exercise it with full awareness.

True. I remember when there was a lamb strike in the 90's (??). A group of farmers had called for no one to sell lambs below a certain price for a week. The auctioneers at Welshpool announced that unless they had lambs to sell that week they would be unable to pay for last weeks lambs. That was the end of the strike.

At the same time another group of farmers decided to picket the gate at the now Dunbia plant in Llanybydder (run by Oriel Jones at the time). By Tuesday/Weds numbers of supporters were dwindling and they were down to five or six men and decided to give up. One of the ring leaders was the first back with a load of lambs.

Cashflow will always mean that some people are more desperate than others and with banks breathing down your neck any cheque is better than no cheque.

 

[Blod]

True. I remember when there was a lamb strike in the 90's (??). A group of farmers had called for no one to sell lambs below a certain price for a week. The auctioneers at Welshpool announced that unless they had lambs to sell that week they would be unable to pay for last weeks lambs. That was the end of the strike.

At the same time another group of farmers decided to picket the gate at the now Dunbia plant in Llanybydder (run by Oriel Jones at the time). By Tuesday/Weds numbers of supporters were dwindling and they were down to five or six men and decided to give up. One of the ring leaders was the first back with a load of lambs.

Cashflow will always mean that some people are more desperate than others and with banks breathing down your neck any cheque is better than no cheque.

The choice so many fail to make is whether to consider change. The obvious difference that I see between the haves and the have nots is the quest for knowledge, the real desire to explore every opportunity to improve their lot and not to succumb to the doubters around them.

 

[d williams]

A loss leader is going to be something you go and get maybe not daily anymore but often. Loo roll is relatively low cost and stores well so not really in the same league as milk. Plus many of us will freeze bread but not milk.

It's also risk avoiding for the stores with a short shelf life they are much better at marketing and selling then any farm group

 

[Still Farming]

Farmer's and Supermarkets,"mind set" needs changing ?

 

[jojo]

I have been thinking about this. I dont milk so forgive me if I make a basic error. From what was said, Tesco treat their farms OK, while the big boys (Muller?) who buy in bulk and then provide a variety of outlets are the ones paying below COP. So if we all started buying milk from the supermarkets who had good contracts with farmers, and not from those who bought from the bulk guys, what would happen? I remember seeing a spreadsheet at one time on who was paying what, but would the bulk guys just refuse to take the milk or would they be shown that we care for small farms and all that that involves?

It is very deceiving Tesco by 70% of the farmers milk in Monmouthshire and muller the rest at a cut price wich they conveniently forgot to say

 

[Old Boar]

It is on later tonight, because of some footy, not "adult language" which was my hope!

 

[1GarethWynJones]

Diolch yn fawr I'm just being myself nothing more [emoji106][emoji106]

 

[DeeGee]

I'm sure you are just being yourself, but you are just what our industry needs, you tell it how it is with honesty and common sense. A welcome change from those who historically do nothing but moan and those who tend to come across as well heeled gentry with thousands of acres.

A great commentator and a great ambassador for our industry, you should be viewed and heard by a much wider audience. Da iawn wir bachgen.

 

[Steevo]

Just watching it back again. Really enjoying it.

Not sure why they keep showing Gareth in a blue Defender, then cut to a red on on the side of a hill.