Gatekeeper, again!....

[Matt77]

I know there was another thread on it running slowly but tonight it's taking the p1ss, anyone know what's going on with it, I'm about to need a new laptop at this rate as this one's going out the window!!!!

 

[Brisel]

Mine is running ok. What are you having trouble with specifically?

 

[Matt77]

It was fine again last night, night before was the slowest it had been but it feels like a regular thing at the moment, the page just greys out between pressing "ok" as an example, then you just sit and wait for it to think, do whatever it's doing, before you can carry on, it's extremely frustrating!!

 

[melted welly]

It was fine again last night, night before was the slowest it had been but it feels like a regular thing at the moment, the page just greys out between pressing "ok" as an example, then you just sit and wait for it to think, do whatever it's doing, before you can carry on, it's extremely frustrating!!

Does it backup to your hard drive or the cloud?

I’ve had bother with mine filling the hard drive up with backups, killing the computer. I’m not smart enough to change it doing that so I just have a while deleting them all occasionally which seems to sort things out again for a while.

 

[Matt77]

Does it backup to your hard drive or the cloud?

I’ve had bother with mine filling the hard drive up with backups, killing the computer. I’m not smart enough to change it doing that so I just have a while deleting them all occasionally which seems to sort things out again for a while.

That sounds like a possibility, will look into that.

 

[melted welly]

That sounds like a possibility, will look into that.

I forget where it’s saved on mine, but there’s a backup folder, last time I must’ve had well over 100 files and computer was almost unusable. there’s meant t be a way that it continually overwrites the same file but I’ve wandered into unfamiliar territory and don’t really know what I’m talking about now.

 

[Brisel]

I have cloud storage and a local copy, I think.

When you are using it, open the Task Manager to see how much resource it is using. The technical helpline is useful for this kind of problem. The tech will pass you onto a specialist if they can't answer themselves. I think they still use the Logmein123 app for having a look inside your machine.

 

[Brisel]

I forget where it’s saved on mine, but there’s a backup folder, last time I must’ve had well over 100 files and computer was almost unusable. there’s meant t be a way that it continually overwrites the same file but I’ve wandered into unfamiliar territory and don’t really know what I’m talking about now.

Each backup should be incremental, not another slightly larger copy of the entire database each time. I looked at doing our own backups when we first went to cloud storage for the firm but Farmplan engineered the software so that they could sell their own remote storage better. We would have just clogged up our servers with endless gigabytes of the data.

 

[melted welly]

Each backup should be incremental, not another slightly larger copy of the entire database each time. I looked at doing our own backups when we first went to cloud storage for the firm but Farmplan engineered the software so that they could sell their own remote storage better. We would have just clogged up our servers with endless gigabytes of the data.

I remember speaking to the help line and being told “it shouldn’t do that” but it does.

 

[ajd132]

had another go with Omnia easy plan yesterday, light years ahead and makes all the SFI stuff super easy and 100% compliant which it needs because its expensive.
ditched gatekeeper years ago and moved to greenlight,which is basic but useable. they are now both owned by an American company so im not convinced whatever they come up with will be much use over here.

 

[Matt77]

I'm looking at that now, waiting to hear back from them. I hear it's official launch is cereals?? So you are saying first impressions are very good?

 

[ajd132]

I'm looking at that now, waiting to hear back from them. I hear it's official launch is cereals?? So you are saying first impressions are very good?

Yes good first and second impressions. I believe cereals is the launch.
it is expensive though, probably too expensive if you just want to record chem and fert. But all the stuff for SFI plans, variable rate SFI, evidencing etc is very good. I do believe it is a cost that should go into a CFA agreement though as opposed to the contractor paying for it as it does all the other stuff to keep them compliant with access to the various scheme money.

 

[Hindsight]

Yes good first and second impressions. I believe cereals is the launch.
it is expensive though, probably too expensive if you just want to record chem and fert. But all the stuff for SFI plans, variable rate SFI, evidencing etc is very good. I do believe it is a cost that should go into a CFA agreement though as opposed to the contractor paying for it as it does all the other stuff to keep them compliant with access to the various scheme money.

What is the cost?

 

[ajd132]

What is the cost?

i think about 5-6/ha.

 

[Hindsight]

i think about 5-6/ha.

Thank you ajd. For that does one get the full Omnia package as well? Mind I will answer my own question and just wait until the launch at Cereals for details and also ask my local HLH representatives!

 

[ajd132]

Thank you ajd. For that does one get the full Omnia package as well? Mind I will answer my own question and just wait until the launch at Cereals for details and also ask my local HLH representatives!

Yeh it’s everything I believe

 

[T Hectares]

Yes good first and second impressions. I believe cereals is the launch.
it is expensive though, probably too expensive if you just want to record chem and fert. But all the stuff for SFI plans, variable rate SFI, evidencing etc is very good. I do believe it is a cost that should go into a CFA agreement though as opposed to the contractor paying for it as it does all the other stuff to keep them compliant with access to the various scheme money.

The main stumbling block for me is by using Omnia you give HLH full access to your input purchasing and pricing, sales, profitability etc

Maybe I’m too cynical…

 

[ajd132]

The main stumbling block for me is by using Omnia you give HLH full access to your input purchasing and pricing, sales, profitability etc

Maybe I’m too cynical…

Fair point, although they have quite a detailed privacy policy. I don’t actually buy any inputs from them at all which gives makes me feel abit better

 

[warksfarmer]

The main stumbling block for me is by using Omnia you give HLH full access to your input purchasing and pricing, sales, profitability etc

Maybe I’m too cynical…

Wouldn't trust any company with data in todays world. All the machinery manufacturers selling their 'live' systems to farmers by saying they can predict machine issues and aviod them is just a cover up because they want your data so they can sell it but also see how much they can increase machinery prices by. If they've got your yield maps, fert maps, chem applications they can work out your crop gross margin ............

 

[ajd132]

Wouldn't trust any company with data in todays world. All the machinery manufacturers selling their 'live' systems to farmers by saying they can predict machine issues and aviod them is just a cover up because they want your data so they can sell it but also see how much they can increase machinery prices by. If they've got your yield maps, fert maps, chem applications they can work out your crop gross margin ............

I think most of these companies have a pretty good idea of those kinds of things anyway. They can only use it against you if you are on a serviced package