Getting Add Blue on farms

[Mc115reed]

How does it work then say I was chopping farmer A's grass 15 miles away...
We've filled up at his farm 5 tractors, the loading shovel, the forager...
we then go to farmer Bs farm which is right next to our yard, we've all burnt say 20 litres each driving there ... that's 140litres burnt travelling to farmer Bs farm from farmer As farm.... if I was farmer B I'd be bloody pee'd off that I was paying for 140 litres of fuel for my contractor to travel from farmer As farm when I'm right next to his yard and he'd of been lucky to burn 1 litre driving here had he come direct from his own yard?!?

 

[R tea]

Using diesel on farm when away from home is far easier for us if I'm away for a few days it saves dickin around with a bowser etc.


Perfect example was this morning went to sow grass at a place which is an hour from home so left full did the job filled up and left. So the customer is quite happy as he got his job done and only had to give the diesel for traveling to the job that's how it works round here has done for a long time and can't see it changing anytime soon.

How are farmers taking to being charged for add blu I don't know anyone else who adds it on to be fair most I know of are running JD so using very little so just standing the cost but I do know of 1 on New Holland and a couple of years back he said he wasn't charging for it but might have changed now.

So you drive back the one hour of travelling and next day you go half a mile down the road to next job, have you filled up on your own fuel before you set out again or does your next job pay for the hours drive home??

 

[Peppa pig]

How does it work then say I was chopping farmer A's grass 15 miles away...
We've filled up at his farm 5 tractors, the loading shovel, the forager...
we then go to farmer Bs farm which is right next to our yard, we've all burnt say 20 litres each driving there ... that's 140litres burnt travelling to farmer Bs farm from farmer As farm.... if I was farmer B I'd be bloody pee'd off that I was paying for 140 litres of fuel for my contractor to travel from farmer As farm when I'm right next to his yard and he'd of been lucky to burn 1 litre driving here had he come direct from his own yard?!?

So would farmer b who is next on list be happy paying traveling time for each machine or would he rather pay for 140 litres of fuel surely you cant expect them to travel for free???

 

[Mc115reed]

I'm sure he'd like to pay for travelling time /fuel from the contractors yard, it ain't his fault the contractors been the other side of the county chopping silage why should he pay for it?

 

[Peppa pig]

I'm sure he'd like to pay for travelling time /fuel from the contractors yard, it ain't his fault the contractors been the other side of the county chopping silage why should he pay for it?

Suppose it aint the contractors fault he wanted the work done after farmer A

 

[Mc115reed]

He didn't ask for the contractor to come after farmer A that's just the only time contractor was available ... he's been flat out for weeks and was the first time he's had a free slot so farmer b had to have him come but if he's a valued customer mr contractor better call in his yard and top his tanks up with diesel or farmer B might have a different contractor for second cut...

 

[KB6930]

So you drive back the one hour of travelling and next day you go half a mile down the road to next job, have you filled up on your own fuel before you set out again or does your next job pay for the hours drive home??

If I'm doing jobs at home then I'll be full again if not the next man puts the fuel in for traveling. I'm sure most folk are happy to pay for fuel one way or another I'm struggling to see how folk think this is so complex it's never been any different round here it's a system that works for everyone end of.

 

[Peppa pig]

He didn't ask for the contractor to come after farmer A that's just the only time contractor was available ... he's been flat out for weeks and was the first time he's had a free slot so farmer b had to have him come but if he's a valued customer mr contractor better call in his yard and top his tanks up with diesel or farmer B might have a different contractor for second cut...

If hes been flat out for weeks he certainly wont need a customer with attitude.wouldnt be a loss.

 

[KB6930]

Seems fairly simple to me you either pay for a pitence of diesel in the grand scheme of things or you go out and spend thousands of pounds on men and machinery and keep the work all in house and don't use a contractor??

 

[General-Lee]

It's a northern thing

You like gravy with everything doesn't make it right!!

 

[Mc115reed]

Seems fairly simple to me you either pay for a pitence of diesel in the grand scheme of things or you go out and spend thousands of pounds on men and machinery and keep the work all in house and don't use a contractor??

Or you just bill in accordance to the deisel used for the job and don't include travelling money from a farm the other side of the country? ??

 

[Speedstar]

It reads like you leave the previous farm with full tanks, then leave the current farm with full tanks.
There's a difference and the difference can be large or small depending on luck of the draw.
A difficult one.

Yes that is how it works
Better than pay for fuel to and from our yard and if we have traveled along way back to the yard and been there a few days we fuel up again before we go to the next job even we have done no work with the machines between jobs
It works very well with our customers

 

[holywell farmer]

Yes that is how it works
Better than pay for fuel to and from our yard and if we have traveled along way back to the yard and been there a few days we fuel up again before we go to the next job even we have done no work with the machines between jobs
It works very well with our customers

Do have bowser you could tow ?

 

[Speedstar]

Do have bowser you could tow ?

Yes we have one, For us supply all the fuel it could cost us over 30K a month laying out at a time, better work the way we are at the moment

 

[ARW]

If I used farmers diesel I think it would waste 20mins to 30 mins a day filling up. Just fill up at home first thing and get the job done

 

[Lazy Eric]

Around our part of the world farmers supplying diesel is just for silage gangs, not for any other contracting activities. My brothers bailing business he supplies all his own diesel,as do any other contractors around here for everything apart from forage harvesting activities. Heavy crop, more fuel, customer pays.

 

[RWG Contracts]

Your all getting very stuck on this idea of paying for the diesel for traveling. Doesn't matter who supplies the fuel, farmer or contractor, the farmer will still pay for the fuel for traveling, it's all worked into the overheads price.
If you didn't pay for it contractor would loose money.

My customers pay for my diesel for traveling to and from a job, the same as they pay for my van insurance, public liability insurance, road tax, workshop insurance, paper for my printer, mobile phone contract ect ect

 

[marcot]

Your all getting very stuck on this idea of paying for the diesel for traveling. Doesn't matter who supplies the fuel, farmer or contractor, the farmer will still pay for the fuel for traveling, it's all worked into the overheads price.
If you didn't pay for it contractor would loose money.

My customers pay for my diesel for traveling to and from a job, the same as they pay for my van insurance, public liability insurance, road tax, workshop insurance, paper for my printer, mobile phone contract ect ect

And all those burgers and bacon rolls!!!!!!

 

[RWG Contracts]

And all those burgers and bacon rolls!!!!!!

Exactly

 

[General-Lee]

Your all getting very stuck on this idea of paying for the diesel for traveling. Doesn't matter who supplies the fuel, farmer or contractor, the farmer will still pay for the fuel for traveling, it's all worked into the overheads price.
If you didn't pay for it contractor would loose money.

My customers pay for my diesel for traveling to and from a job, the same as they pay for my van insurance, public liability insurance, road tax, workshop insurance, paper for my printer, mobile phone contract ect ect

...don't forget bacon butties!