Glyphosate again

[Bogweevil]

PARIS (Reuters) - A French court cancelled the licence for one of Monsanto’s glyphosate-based weedkillers on Tuesday over safety concerns, placing an immediate ban on Roundup Pro 360 in the latest legal blow to the Bayer-owned business.

A court in Lyon in southeast France ruled that the approval granted by French environment agency ANSES in 2017 for Roundup Pro 360 had failed to take into account potential health risks.

://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-bayer-monsanto-france/french-court-cancels-monsanto-weedkiller-permit-on-safety-grounds-idUKKCN1P925V

 

[Brisel]

https://www.france24.com/en/20190116-weedkiller-roundup-banned-france-after-court-ruling
https://www.fwi.co.uk/arable/crop-m...monsanto-weedkiller-roundup-over-safety-fears

 

[Sals dad]

At our NOROSO course we were shown this

 

[awkward]

How many reps would pour themselves a glass of roundup to back those figurs up if it's only slightly more toxic than an alcoholic drink. Not many I would think

 

[kiwi pom]

So where's the science that says glyphosate causes cancer?

 

[Post Driver]

TV adverts, 2 weeks ago in America. I think they were targeting sufferers of Lymphoma cancers

 

[le bon paysan]

Its the 1st step to banning it. This is for the gardening lot.

 

[SilliamWhale]

How many reps would pour themselves a glass of roundup to back those figurs up if it's only slightly more toxic than an alcoholic drink. Not many I would think

What the f**k for?

 

[Frankzy]

What the fudge for?

To prove it's not dangerous.
Back in the 1975 the CEO of BT Kemi did exactly that on Swedish television except rather than Roundup it was called Hormoslyr which was used to kill off birch, alder and basically any plant bigger than a bush that wasn't a pine or spruce.

Of course the very next year it was banned since it had been shown to contain all kinds of nastiness such as dioxin and malformation causing growth hormones (same stuff as in Agent Orange!).

 

[SilliamWhale]

To prove it's not dangerous.
Back in the 1975 the CEO of BT Kemi did exactly that on Swedish television except rather than Roundup it was called Hormoslyr which was used to kill off birch, alder and basically any plant bigger than a bush that wasn't a pine or spruce.

Of course the very next year it was banned since it had been shown to contain all kinds of nastiness such as dioxin and malformation causing growth hormones (same stuff as in Agent Orange!).

Of course in some ways its dangerous (or better put hazardous) - it kills plants. Hormoslyr contained one ingredient that was banned a while ago and another that isn't banned (24d).

 

[jack6480]

Why won’t they hurry up and just ban it

 

[Audlem Agron]

How many reps would pour themselves a glass of roundup to back those figurs up if it's only slightly more toxic than an alcoholic drink. Not many I would think

Ive seen two do it.

 

[Cowabunga]

Why won’t they hurry up and just ban it

Because they cannot find a valid reason for doing so. It is probably the least toxic [to humans] herbicide that there has ever been and there is very unlikely to be a less harmful, useful and efficiently effective herbicide in the medium term future.

 

[Al R]

How many reps would pour themselves a glass of roundup to back those figurs up if it's only slightly more toxic than an alcoholic drink. Not many I would think

Back when it was the new kid on the block a lot of reps would drink it to prove it was non toxic..
a huge shame to the industry if it disappears!

 

[SilliamWhale]

Back when it was the new kid on the block a lot of reps would drink it to prove it was non toxic..
a huge shame to the industry if it disappears!

I doubt they did

 

[Barleycorn]

Back when it was the new kid on the block a lot of reps would drink it to prove it was non toxic..
a huge shame to the industry if it disappears!

 

[Smith31]

Because they cannot find a valid reason for doing so. It is probably the least toxic [to humans] herbicide that there has ever been and there is very unlikely to be a less harmful, useful and efficiently effective herbicide in the medium term future.

They said asbestos was harmless too. For my sins I am married to a doctor her colleagues are very concerned about the chemicals entering the food chain via weed killers, preservatives, food colouring etc.

 

[Cowabunga]

They said asbestos was harmless too. For my sins I am married to a doctor her colleagues are very concerned about the chemicals entering the food chain via weed killers, preservatives, food colouring etc.

Tell them to get a life [and long lives are ever more the normal] and explain why life expectancy is so long that old age diseases such as dementia and strokes and heart disease along with age related cancers are clogging up their NHS and many many more healthy oldies needing home help, old people's homes than ever before.

If glyphosate was harmful then it would have been picked up decades ago. It hasn't. That, despite being the most widely used herbicide and in many countries being very intensively utilised in combination with GM crops bred to be glyphosate resistant.

 

[kiwi pom]

They said asbestos was harmless too. For my sins I am married to a doctor her colleagues are very concerned about the chemicals entering the food chain via weed killers, preservatives, food colouring etc.

Do her colleagues practice science based medicine? Why do they not trust the science on this one?
It seems to me there are far more harmful chemicals in daily use than Glyphosate.
This whole thing seems to be more of an attack on large companies like Bayer- who now own Monsanto- than any concern over peoples health. The Organic/anti GMO green lobby being the loudest voice as far as I can see.
As the duck says most countries haven't banned it because there is no reason to. Unfortunately many major decisions seem to be fear based these days so this decision by the French may mean more countries follow.

 

[bobk]

Roundup popularity was 30 odd years ago , not overly used nowadays ..... apart from the no tillers ....