Glyphosate wetter

[ollie989898]

Well maybe but have to reduce pesticide rate to 50% of max recommended dose for the application.
I have couchgrass in some wheat. I think I will be using 4 litres glyphosate and a litre Firebrand (ammonium sulphate solution) rather than 2 litres glyphosate and Li700 at recommended conc.
I’m no agronomist though. My agronomist will decide.
I find the couchgrass takes it in well preharvest but not so well in the stubbles so it’s a good opportunity.

Don't fudge about with couch or you will see it again next year. I've got that T shirt.

 

[ollie989898]

When using the ammonium sulphate wetters they must be added to the water before the glyphosate or they have no effect.

Always pays to ask tech hotline which sequence to add products.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Use validate instead.

I have consistently found that the speed of kill is enhanced with these products. Many of them also claim to be drift retardants and water conditioners in one handy and dandy product.

Same problem with Validate, no one supplies it.

 

[ollie989898]

Same problem with Validate, no one supplies it.

Ring up De Sangosse and ask for a stockist in your region? Doesn't the marketplace on TFF sell it or something very similar? De Sangosse sell some good stuff, they must be able to get product nationwide surely.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Same problem with Validate, no one supplies it.

Eh ?

Validate 1L - Maximises Herbicide Performance

Unique and powerful aid to get the most from your weed spraying and target difficult weeds

www.progreen.co.uk

It's not impressive anyway ime.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Eh ?

Validate 1L - Maximises Herbicide Performance

Unique and powerful aid to get the most from your weed spraying and target difficult weeds

www.progreen.co.uk

It's not impressive anyway ime.

That's the only website I could find. I assumed cos it was a lawn website it would be dearer than an ag supplier.

I'll ring DeSangosse on Mon. We're just going at higher rate glypho on the two fields that need doing straight away anyway so a wetter isn't needed.

 

[warksfarmer]

Soz, I know this has come up many times, just can't be bothered searching. When using cheap glyphosate at say 3 l/ha what's a cost efficient wetter to use with it? Everyone has been enthusiastic about LI700 from memory, what sort of price is it currently and what rate? Any other options?

Put 4l of Glypher on 12 days ago in 200l of water and it’s as if it was never applied here so we need to look at our water quality I think.

 

[ollie989898]

That's the only website I could find. I assumed cos it was a lawn website it would be dearer than an ag supplier.

I'll ring DeSangosse on Mon. We're just going at higher rate glypho on the two fields that need doing straight away anyway so a wetter isn't needed.

Yeah that price isn't aimed at the agricultural market- all the Validate I've ever seen was in 5L cans for starters.

 

[farmerm]

I use a liquid solution of 8% ammonium sulfate, at 0.60 euros / ha. It works very well. It is the same as Actimun that use massive in France

Adjuvants agricoles pour optimiser l'efficacité des phytos

www.agridyne.fr

My serviced agronomists ammonium sulfate costs more per ha than the glyphosate

 

[ollie989898]

My serviced agronomists ammonium sulfate costs more per ha than the glyphosate

That doesn't seem right? Are you using it at the right rate?

 

[farmerm]

Put 4l of Glypher on 12 days ago in 200l of water and it’s as if it was never applied here so we need to look at our water quality I think.

You are not alone I think. I know a friend of mine has been questioning if there is any glyphosate in his glyphosate this summer! He has sprayed both barley and wheat and after 2 weeks neither crops looked any closer to being fit to harvest, despite using a water conditioner.

 

[farmerm]

That doesn't seem right? Are you using it at the right rate?

I exaggerate a little perhaps.. 2017 I paid £2.50/L for the glyphosate and £3/L for the ammonium sulphate at 1L/ha. I don't have more recent figures to hand, though we have used little in the past 2 years.. making up for it this summer by doing every acre I think

 

[ollie989898]

I exaggerate a little perhaps.. 2017 I paid £2.50/L for the glyphosate and £3/L for the ammonium sulphate at 1L/ha. I don't have more recent figures to hand, though we have used little in the past 2 years.. making up for it this summer by doing every acre I think

A I see, you use the ammonium sulphate at quite a rate. All the glyphosate adjuvants I used were generally in the 200ml/ha and below, often a lot less range. I reckon it possibly worked out at £1/ha or less? The grassland and maize or beet adjuvants were different mind.

 

[farmerm]

A I see, you use the ammonium sulphate at quite a rate. All the glyphosate adjuvants I used were generally in the 200ml/ha and below, often a lot less range. I reckon it possibly worked out at £1/ha or less? The grassland and maize or beet adjuvants were different mind.

sorry you are correct! Seriously my brain is not with it today. 200ml/ha so 60p per ha... its no so bad is it

 

[Chae1]

Don't use any wetters here. Chose Monsanto glyphosate which is slightly more expensive. Still only £2.20/l putting on 2l/ha. Any grass growing at edge of field brown. Kills Amg too.

 

[ollie989898]

Don't use any wetters here. Chose Monsanto glyphosate which is slightly more expensive. Still only £2.20/l putting on 2l/ha. Any grass growing at edge of field brown. Kills Amg too.

As I have said before, the posher brands have never let me down and you can use reduced rates as necessary. I would still use an adjuvant though.

 

[Chae1]

As I have said before, the posher brands have never let me down and you can use reduced rates as necessary. I would still use an adjuvant though.

Most farmers will simply choose the cheapest.

 

[Brisel]

Does anyone know where I could get hold of LI700 in the north of Eng? None of the suppliers I've tried will supply it, a couple haven't even heard of it!!

Try Frontier. They've had exclusivity for DeSangosse products in the past.

 

[Brisel]

When using the ammonium sulphate wetters they must be added to the water before the glyphosate or they have no effect.

This. The same applies to all water conditioners. Normally, adjuvants are the last to be added to the tank.

The ultimate best practice is to have a tank full of treated water to hook your sprayer up to. At my last place I had a Dosatron metering Aquascope to the incoming mains water on a 18,000 litre tank. I used this for all glyphosate, hormones, SUs and pyrethroid applications in a hard water area.

 

[Sandy]

This. The same applies to all water conditioners. Normally, adjuvants are the last to be added to the tank.

The ultimate best practice is to have a tank full of treated water to hook your sprayer up to. At my last place I had a Dosatron metering Aquascope to the incoming mains water on a 18,000 litre tank. I used this for all glyphosate, hormones, SUs and pyrethroid applications in a hard water area.

I’ve a similar set up here it makes a huge difference to the water quality