Grain pads - alternatives to concrete?

[gorgous]

Did you see the add by mudcontrol ltd page 74 of farmers guide? They are making interlocking slabs of plastic. No idea if any good but they are advertising what you want.

 

[ajd132]

Did you see the add by mudcontrol ltd page 74 of farmers guide? They are making interlocking slabs of plastic. No idea if any good but they are advertising what you want.

Thankyou

 

[Pilatus]

@ajd132 ,
Out of interest have you decided on which way to go as regards alternative to concrete for grain pads.

 

[ajd132]

@ajd132 ,
Out of interest have you decided on which way to go as regards alternative to concrete for grain pads.

On one farm we are putting a stabilised soil/concrete pad in, not the farm I was intending originally though. This farm has storage on farm but there is an outlying block which is a long cart so will just dump and put into camgrain.
Be interesting to see how the pad holds up. It’s 1/10th of the cost of proper concrete but will only get maybe a weeks use in good weather so should be okay for a while.

 

[Rattie]

If you are going to free up the owners sheds for alternative uses surely they will manage to provide you with some concrete?

How much grain do realistically need to store before movement?

...your whole harvest, if you were storing in Camgrain last year, 14 day wait on wagons at peak....

 

[ajd132]

...your whole harvest, if you were storing in Camgrain last year, 14 day wait on wagons at peak....

I organise my own haulage but it was still much longer than usual. Lots of issues with tasc bulk haulage fleet. Apparently it’s getting even worse.

 

[farmerfred86]

I organise my own haulage but it was still much longer than usual. Lots of issues with tasc bulk haulage fleet. Apparently it’s getting even worse.

Its going to be carnage again.... I cant see where there have been any improvements. (If anything there are less drivers and lorries locally than last year!)

Also (playing devils advocate here) on farm storage has paid big time in the last year (as it should have done in central storage too) and I wonder if landowners can see that and value it higher and spend more on infrastructure like concrete pads/buildings?

 

[S J H]

On one farm we are putting a stabilised soil/concrete pad in, not the farm I was intending originally though. This farm has storage on farm but there is an outlying block which is a long cart so will just dump and put into camgrain.
Be interesting to see how the pad holds up. It’s 1/10th of the cost of proper concrete but will only get maybe a weeks use in good weather so should be okay for a while.

1/10th? Do they still concrete a pad?

 

[snarling bee]

(as it should have done in central storage too)

Not if Frontier have it in their pool!!

 

[ajd132]

Its going to be carnage again.... I cant see where there have been any improvements. (If anything there are less drivers and lorries locally than last year!)

Also (playing devils advocate here) on farm storage has paid big time in the last year (as it should have done in central storage too) and I wonder if landowners can see that and value it higher and spend more on infrastructure like concrete pads/buildings?

Don’t disagree with you. Depends on the land owner I guess and size of holding is pretty important.

 

[Banana Bar]

Not if Frontier have it in their pool!!

Agreed, £30 difference between Frontier and other pools I’ve had for Jan / March. 4500t in Camgrain so I’m expecting to be disappointed come August.

 

[principal skinner]

Agreed, £30 difference between Frontier and other pools I’ve had for Jan / March. 4500t in Camgrain so I’m expecting to be disappointed come August.

135k would go a way to your own store………..

 

[ajd132]

Certainly keen to hear different pool results for the same marketing periods to see the differences. Maybe with volatility how it is now pools aren’t safe. We used to get £20/t movement either way for a long time now it’s £150!

 

[fudge]

Certainly keen to hear different pool results for the same marketing periods to see the differences. Maybe with volatility how it is now pools aren’t safe. We used to get £20/t movement either way for a long time now it’s £150!

Pools are bound to look poor in the current circumstances. Whether individual sellers do better in a falling market is open to question imo. Apparently ADM’s wheat pool will be traded by an “algorithm” in future. Maybe humans at too fallible to trade commodities?

 

[ajd132]

Pools are bound to look poor in the current circumstances. Whether individual sellers do better in a falling market is open to question imo. Apparently ADM’s wheat pool will be traded by an “algorithm” in future. Maybe humans at too fallible to trade commodities?

Yes agree re market direction. I’ve heard about algorithms as well

 

[Robt]

How do your run lorrires at harvest and keep within driver hours?

 

[farmerfred86]

Pools are bound to look poor in the current circumstances. Whether individual sellers do better in a falling market is open to question imo. Apparently ADM’s wheat pool will be traded by an “algorithm” in future. Maybe humans at too fallible to

Yes agree re market direction. I’ve heard about algorithms as well

I was told by a merchant that algorithms are already used and can be seen by the way markets react to certain news events

 

[ajd132]

How do your run lorrires at harvest and keep within driver hours?

I don’t understand? We don’t run lorries.

 

[farmerfred86]

How do your run lorrires at harvest and keep within driver hours?

Harvest is no different to the rest of the year. Drivers use nearly all of their hours… all of the time. If they don’t then a vehicle doesn’t pay.

 

[JCfarmer]

On one farm we are putting a stabilised soil/concrete pad in, not the farm I was intending originally though. This farm has storage on farm but there is an outlying block which is a long cart so will just dump and put into camgrain.
Be interesting to see how the pad holds up. It’s 1/10th of the cost of proper concrete but will only get maybe a weeks use in good weather so should be okay for a while.

Soil and concrete or hardcore and conrete???
Who's putting the pad in for you and where are they from?