Grain yields 2022

[robbie]

Asked on another thread but no results .
Anyone grown SY Canyon winter Barley ?
It's a new hybrid which are agronomist wants to try but I'm a bit reluctant about it .
I don't think it suits are soil type .
...and I'm nervous of hybrid stuff !
Hence my earlier questions .
Any advice help gladly accepted

Be mindful of a few things with hybrids, you sow them at a lower seed rate so less than ideal seed beds have a bigger affect.

The hybrids have got good bushel weights but people still prefer 2 rows for milling and home feeding.

It'll look like you've got a huge straw crop but once through the combine it'll knock up and you'll have no more or even less than a good 2 row and it'll be short stuff to bale.

You can't home save the seed so will need to buy new ever year.

Because if the low seed rate youll probably have to work hard in the spring to get enough tillers.

Just to add. The last hybrid I grew was bazooka so things may have moved in since then. They did yield more but only enough to cover the extra seed,pgr and chem costs so all I was doing was putting more into the trades pockets.

 

[robbie]

One has 2 rows like normal and the other 6 rows of grain and looks a bit like awned wheat. Hybrid barley is like a first generation cross in cattle, both parents are of a known breed but if you cross the hybrid you don’t know what you will get. Hybrid vigour is the theory same as with stock.

Pah, the volunteers always look true to type!!!!

 

[Baling Hay]

It effects uk prices
A lot

Define "a lot"

 

[Northern territory]

Apart from the competitive element for grass weeds I think two rows are hands down better than six rows or hybrids. A lot better bushel weight and comparatively better on straw yields.

 

[snipe]

Pah, the volunteers always look true to type!!!!

 

[4course]

combined sp barley today so other than that straw to bale ( hoping contractor gets here tonight as dry as snuff and showers forecast) harvest 22 finished . The sp barley yielded ok , but not record breaking but considering it was sown later than ideal and hardly had any noticeable rain on it since it emerged and has had little spent on it not complaining . A few more lights than I would like over the back that will all surely grow just out of spite but they will get grazed off if we decide to buy a few lambs .
Its been the easiest harvest and earliest finish since I started work at 12 yrs old , even had time to have a couple of days away mid in august week plus had pals to stay nor did we work bank holiday wkend or past midnight any night and have worked / been involved on 55 of them. No major breakdowns ,never started the drier, no trailer punctures plenty of straw better than expected in may yields. Even if I feck up the marketing could well be the best total output year though not so sure on profitability ,fert and other inputs have been the highest as well. However 1/2 the sp barley is sat in trailers and some tipped on the yard with a sheet on it as cant fit in the shed even after a couple more than usual loads of osr and w.barley gone . Wonder what 23 harvest will bring, should maybe even retire now on a high and rest on my laurels though unlikely as this harvest has been fun though its not just me, .....my staff, my family ,and those who I do business with have all contributed and most if not all have gone above or beyond .Now got the challenge of establishing next years crops in the driest soil ive ever had so with this in mind im going to feck off again this weekend just so im not tempted to start working land and loosing even more moisture. Just hope my bonhomie lasts, though just glanced at my glass of lager and difficult to tell wether its half full or half empty but thats farming

 

[Flat 10]

combined sp barley today so other than that straw to bale ( hoping contractor gets here tonight as dry as snuff and showers forecast) harvest 22 finished . The sp barley yielded ok , but not record breaking but considering it was sown later than ideal and hardly had any noticeable rain on it since it emerged and has had little spent on it not complaining . A few more lights than I would like over the back that will all surely grow just out of spite but they will get grazed off if we decide to buy a few lambs .
Its been the easiest harvest and earliest finish since I started work at 12 yrs old , even had time to have a couple of days away mid in august week plus had pals to stay nor did we work bank holiday wkend or past midnight any night and have worked / been involved on 55 of them. No major breakdowns ,never started the drier, no trailer punctures plenty of straw better than expected in may yields. Even if I feck up the marketing could well be the best total output year though not so sure on profitability ,fert and other inputs have been the highest as well. However 1/2 the sp barley is sat in trailers and some tipped on the yard with a sheet on it as cant fit in the shed even after a couple more than usual loads of osr and w.barley gone . Wonder what 23 harvest will bring, should maybe even retire now on a high and rest on my laurels though unlikely as this harvest has been fun though its not just me, .....my staff, my family ,and those who I do business with have all contributed and most if not all have gone above or beyond .Now got the challenge of establishing next years crops in the driest soil ive ever had so with this in mind im going to feck off again this weekend just so im not tempted to start working land and loosing even more moisture. Just hope my bonhomie lasts, though just glanced at my glass of lager and difficult to tell wether its half full or half empty but thats farming

I like your enthusiasm after 55 harvests! I don’t think I started out with that much!

 

[4course]

I like your enthusiasm after 55 harvests! I don’t think I started out with that much!

ah well I started out with feck all other than the last saturdays wages ( note we worked sat mornings back then )

 

[bankrupt]

Wonder what 23 harvest will bring, should maybe even retire now on a high

Had the chance to do that here in 1996.

Now taken 25yrs to recover from 1997.

 

[fudge]

Had the chance to do that here in 1996.

Now taken 25yrs to recover from 1997.

Well bankrupt it’s true to say your bankruptcy is taking longer than most peoples

Talking of bankruptcy our spring beans yielded 4.4t/ha. First time I have grown a (slightly) higher yield of OSR.

 

[Stuart1]

First time growing cereals for me this year. Grew spring barley with the help of an Agronomist, cut yesterday. Done 2.7t per acre over a weigh bridge at 15.1% moisture.

 

[bankrupt]

Well bankrupt it’s true to say your bankruptcy is taking longer than most peoples

Swings and roundabouts.

Talking of bankruptcy our spring beans yielded 4.4t/ha. First time I have grown a (slightly) higher yield of OSR.

Last time we grew spring beans it was 1.8t/ha.

 

[Steevo]

Full marks to @Charlie Flindt and his harvest write-up in the back page of the Farmers Weekly this week. I have massive admiration for him and his honesty telling it how it is.

 

[Cowcorn]

Full marks to @Charlie Flindt and his harvest write-up in the back page of the Farmers Weekly this week. I have massive admiration for him and his honesty telling it how it is.

Yes charlie very honest with no gilding of the lily !!
He says its his last harvest .
Is he retiring or giving up the tenancy ???
Still cutting here s barley 2.5 ton acre didnt get much p + k and it showed ..
I bit depressing when the fella in the next field is tipping 4 ton ..
Still sp wheat to cut which looks very well but looks can be decieving !!!

 

[bankrupt]

Yes charlie very honest with no gilding of the lily !!
He says its his last harvest .
Is he retiring or giving up the tenancy ???
Still cutting here s barley 2.5 ton acre didnt get much p + k and it showed ..
I bit depressing when the fella in the next field is tipping 4 ton ..
Still sp wheat to cut which looks very well but looks can be decieving !!!

 

[bankrupt]

Bit of rain here - usual autumn paradox, incomers complaining the rain's ruined their hols whist using up more than has actually fallen.

 

[teslacoils]

South West Water 21/8/22 42.7%
Wessex Water 19/8/22 56%
Southern Water 18/8/22 53.8%
Thames Water - not updated
Anglian Water 12/8/22 78.6%
Severn Trent 22/8/22 52.0%
Yorkshire Water - not updated (12th August was reported at sub 50%
United Utilities 14/8/22 56.4%

South West Water 28/8/22 39.8%
Wessex Water 31/8/22 50%
Southern Water 25/8/22 54.5%
Thames Water - not updated since end July
Anglian Water - page not available
Severn Trent 29/8/22 48.9%
Yorkshire Water - not updated since June
United Utilities 28/8/22 50.6%

The government webpage with regional water situations has not been updated since mid July, despite it being monthly. We are missing August and it will soon be due for September's.

 

[Flat 10]

South West Water 28/8/22 39.8%
Wessex Water 31/8/22 50%
Southern Water 25/8/22 54.5%
Thames Water - not updated since end July
Anglian Water - page not available
Severn Trent 29/8/22 48.9%
Yorkshire Water - not updated since June
United Utilities 28/8/22 50.6%

The government webpage with regional water situations has not been updated since mid July, despite it being monthly. We are missing August and it will soon be due for September's.

You’d think that water industry would pay to be regulated by the red tanker and if their paperwork wasn’t in order they wouldn’t be able to sell their water and so would import boatloads from well known hygienic places like the Ukraine

 

[Charlie Flindt]

Full marks to @Charlie Flindt and his harvest write-up in the back page of the Farmers Weekly this week. I have massive admiration for him and his honesty telling it how it is.

Thanks. No point fibbing. Tell it like it is.

 

[Flat 10]

Yes charlie very honest with no gilding of the lily !!
He says its his last harvest .
Is he retiring or giving up the tenancy ???
Still cutting here s barley 2.5 ton acre didnt get much p + k and it showed ..
I bit depressing when the fella in the next field is tipping 4 ton ..
Still sp wheat to cut which looks very well but looks can be decieving !!!

Yes I was confused too, surely @Charlie Flindt isn’t retiring, he’s only recently bought a new combine…..
@Cowcorn 2.5t/ac spring barley is an average year and 4t a pipe dream! This year was below average.