Granulated lime, conacre ground

[ridger]

Dread to ask this question, but for ground rented for one year with a ph of 6.2 for growing fodder beet be ok with granulated lime or better with the right stuff I dont have much faith in the granulated lime to be honest.

 

[Clive]

Pete !!

 

[mushnt grummmble]

Dread to ask this question, but for ground rented for one year with a ph of 6.2 for growing fodder beet be ok with granulated lime or better with the right stuff I dont have much faith in the granulated lime to be honest.

and you would be correct

 

[Great In Grass]

Don't know to much on the subject but I am led to believe that granulated lime is very fast acting, which for a one year rent may be of advantage. Oh and you will be cleaner when applying the stuff!

 

[mushnt grummmble]

Don't know to much on the subject but I am led to believe that granulated lime is very fast acting, which for a one year rent may be of advantage. Oh and you will be cleaner when applying the stuff!

gran is shite
you may raise the ph by .1 if your lucky

 

[Great In Grass]

gran is shite
you may raise the ph by .1 if your lucky

There you go, I know a little bit more now!

 

[Farmer Wally]

gran is shite
you may raise the ph by .1 if your lucky

How much have you applied to raise the ph by .1 ?

 

[Clive]

At the Kinsey seminar he said it was good

BUT and it's a big BUT. That depends on if it is actually as fine as the stuff they get in the USA

from memory it needs to pass through a 300 mesh filter to be available in year 1 - the 100 mesh filter he passed around was extremely fine like a sprayer filter so 300 mesh is pure flour like dust

Pete was going to tell us definitively if calcifert was that fine or not - if it is then its good if its not then its snake oil !

 

[mushnt grummmble]

How much have you applied to raise the ph by .1 ?

150kg/acre

 

[Enry]

The new forum has made it..... a matter of days and we have a question re granulated lime ......Pete....???

 

[septimus]

Dread to ask this question, but for ground rented for one year with a ph of 6.2 for growing fodder beet be ok with granulated lime or better with the right stuff I dont have much faith in the granulated lime to be honest.

Hot lime would be better but for a ph of 6.2 why bother it isn't going to improve it that much

 

[Steevo]

First question - with a pH of 6.2 do you really need to raise it? Most nutrients are readily available at that, and Kinsey reckoned on an ideal pH being 6.0-6.3 IIRC.

But if you're intent on improving it.....rather than splashing out ££ on granular lime just to see you through one year maybe consider asking the landlord if they'd consider going halves on the proper stuff. It may be a little slower (note: may! not massively in my experience) but it'll help sort the ground out properly for the long term.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Enry, it was hours, not days!!!

My Learned friends.......................

What a bloody dull subject to be so famous for!!

At 6.2 and one year of cropping, I wouldn't worry. If you want to put something on and leave nothing behind for the next man ( you would be surprised how many farmers see this as an absolute must!!) then put some prills on. It will make you feel better. Alternatively, just put 1t/acre of proper lime on, do the job properly for yourself, point out to the landowner that you chose the long term option rather than quick patch up, and he might remember you another day.

Greatingrass, granular will not work any faster than the fine element of good quality ground limestone. Absolute fact.

I must get that tattoo on my forehead.................

 

[Great In Grass]

Greatingrass, granular will not work any faster than the fine element of good quality ground limestone. Absolute fact.

I must get that tattoo on my forehead.................

Thanks for putting right was told that by a rep some time ago, bloody reps eh! I think I'll stick to selling seed.

BTW, that would be quite a tattoo or quite a forehead!

 

[choochter]

To raise the pH on some of my grassland I applied 2cwts/acre calcifert last spring. Got soils analysis done before spreading and again this Jan. pH is up by 0.1. This is grass for haylage. I can do the job myself whenever I want and it costs (buying the stuff and spreading it) £15.95 per acre.
I am now hiding under my desk.

 

[mushnt grummmble]

To raise the pH on some of my grassland I applied 2cwts/acre calcifert last spring. Got soils analysis done before spreading and again this Jan. pH is up by 0.1. This is grass for haylage. I can do the job myself whenever I want and it costs (buying the stuff and spreading it) £15.95 per acre.
I am now hiding under my desk.

so £16 to raise .1
2 ton would raise 1.0 and cost £50

 

[choochter]

plus the crop

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Thanks for putting right was told that by a rep some time ago, bloody reps eh! I think I'll stick to selling seed.

BTW, that would be quite a tattoo or quite a forehead!

There's the nub of it.

 

[ridger]

Granulated lime appears to be an interesting topic Our advisor seems to think I need a ph of 7 but sure maybe the beet would do well enough the way it is at 6.2! thanks for replys

 

[Dave Applesquasher]

Is beet not in the brassica family and therefore prone to clubroot?
That will be why the pH7.0 is recommended.