I must say that I've had excellent results from Sinclair McGill's "Castle hill " mixture. Really good for grazing, and we take a cut from it too. Seeded a field and it lasted 20 years. Reseeded four years ago with the same mixture, really good growth on only 75Kg of fertiliser/ acre. Well recommended.
grass seeds on rented land
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Yes it is interesting, relatively speaking I know little about grasss tbh and no where near as much about it as dairy f.would i guess..and being just sheep
could be an excuse.. i should get better informed about it as a crop i no doubt.For us i would say longevity isnt top of the list as most of our grass is in a rotation situation so it get taken out as and when.that said ..
The most used grasseed mix here is MVF 'No clover multi' as being an 'off the shelf choice' of no clover or add some in if i choose by having a few bags of wc clover in stock here. iyswim .. like if i think chickweed s going to be a problem etc or wether i want to just take a chance of 'no weed spraying required' and have clover in right at the start , which ime is the best time for establishing clover .
Its clover is a big priority for me, and as ive said most dont have enough in in my simplistic opinion.
Like Doug Avery says ..."free nitrogen and what farmer would say no to something free !"
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- Ceredigion
Clover don't add a massive amount to the cost . Personally as a farmer I would always put it in,Yes it is interesting, relatively speaking I know little about grasss tbh and no where near as much about it as dairy f.would i guess..and being just sheep
For us i would say longevity isnt top of the list as most of our grass is in a rotation situation so it get taken out as and when.that said ..
The most used grasseed mix here is MVF no clover multi, as being an 'off the shelf choice' of no clover or add some in if i choose by having a few bags of wc clover in stock here. iyswim .. like if i think chickweed s going to be a problem etc or wether i want to just take a chance of 'no weed spraying required' and have clover in right at the start , which ime is the best time for establishing clover .
Its clover is a big priority for me, and as ive said most dont have enough in in my simplistic opinion.
Like Doug Avery says ..."free nitrogen and what farmer would say no to something free !"
Small leaved being better for sheep under close grazing , I suppose its Personal choice but never been a fan of early heading types for constant grazing , but then some of the new intermediate strains are showing excellent winter growth which is important with sheep , have a look at NZ Cool Graze on the website
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- Welshpool Powys
@hally is the Sinclair McGill rep for Cumbria always very helpful and informative on here.
sherg
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- shropshire
I've got a field I'm wanting to put a long term ley on with clover, a bit of clover and sheep grazing can anyone reccomend me a good persistent mix?
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- Ceredigion
Hurrells HM 17
Think your in Kevin's area
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- Ceredigion
Any problems give me a call
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- Ceredigion
Seed breeders DSV have three new high performance grasses on the new 2020/21 RL including the highest yielding variety on the list capable of producing 35t/ha DM over its two-year recommended rotation.
The result of DSV’s Grass Breeding Network with input from the company’s Oxfordshire-based breeding station, the new varieties make a total of 14 DSV grass varieties on the current RL, says the company’s James Ingles.
“Our new Sendero, Arman and Perkins varieties and feature outsanding yields and quality combined with exceptional disease resistance.
“DSV Sendero Italian Ryegrass (diploid) is the highest yielding variety on the entire list achieving 103% of the total yield control of 16.96t/ha/year DM over two years as well as having the second highest rating for early spring growth at 110%.
“It produces a first and second cut ME yield over 125,000 MJ/ha together with the joint highest score for ground cover in its group.
“With an 8.0 for Crown rust resitance and a provisional 7.8 for Mildew, Sendero has the yield and relaibility to make it an ideal contributor to top performing grass mixes for silage or grazing.”
DSV Arman is another high yielding italian rygrass (tetraploid) producing 102% of first and second cut ME yield to give 125,000MJ/ha with the earliest quick spring growth in its group, he says.
“Again a strong disease resistance package, including 8.3 for Crown rust resitance and a provisional 7.6 for Mildew, mean Arman is a a great choice for high output mixes.
“For producers wanting a hybrid ryegrass that combines three to four years of production we have our new DSV Perkins which combines class leading quality and excellent crown Rust resitance.
“On the 2020/21 RL, Perkins achieves 101% of yield control over three years of sowing with one of the higest scoress for early spring growth and an 8.8 for Mildew and and a 7.4 for Crown rust.”
The three new varieties join the Aston series of ryegrasses, including AstonEnergy, AstonBonus, AstonKing, AstonVision and AstonCrusader, which have been bred to bring the best combinations of yield, quality, digestibility, disease resitance and longevity, James Ingles explains.
“The DSV UK grass breeding station at Wardington, Oxfordshire, is part of a network of specialists breeders across Europe breeding improved varieties for the UK ruminant farmer.
“DSV Wardington is not only a grass breeding station but is also a centre of excellence for grass testing and is regonised for this by carrying out NL and RL work on behalf of and in conjunction with BSPB, AHDB and NIAB.
“All our varieties are bred for UK conditions with high levels of in-built resilience and disease resistance to cope with the increasingly variable growing conditions noe experi
Hurrells 26C Conqueror Long Term Grass Seed Mix with Clover (Acre Pack) (4-5 Years Dual Purpose)
3.00 kg ASTONCONQUEROR Perennial Ryegrass Int Dip
2.60 kg EXPLOSION Perennial Ryegrass Int Dip
3.00 kg ASTONENERGY Perennial Ryegrass Int Tet
2.50 kg ROSSERA Perennial Ryegrass Late Dip
2.90 kg ASTONCHIEFTAIN Perennial Ryegrass Late Tet
1.00 kg SWALEDALE White Clover Blend
15.00 kg per acre
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- Montgomeryshire
I thought the general consensus was that the OP shouldn’t waste his money on grass seed without getting the fundamentals sorted.
Are you suggesting he should put a long term mix in now? Or just taking the opportunity to cut & paste an advert in??
Are you suggesting he should put a long term mix in now? Or just taking the opportunity to cut & paste an advert in??
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- Cornwall.
The "adverts" are popping up on every grass related thread, getting boring now and detracting from the original OP!
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- Welshpool Powys
Plenty of copy and pasters perhaps they should start a wallpapering business?
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- Ceredigion
Ive sent a pm of what ive suggested after chatting to him ,but it was you who kept asking why we dont use Aber Strains . If the seed sales men find the answer boring then dont ask the question
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Ive leart that the only way to learn is try it yourself . Look at direct drilling around 50 % say it works well and the other say not , so i have decided to try it myself and see . If it works the way i do it then i will share the info with anyone intersed . If it dont i shall not hold back ,
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- Ceredigion
Sorry i should have just sent theclink
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Hello,
I'd like to introduce myself as Hurrells newest seed merchant. My territory covers Skomer Island ( North ). I've been banned from selling seeds on Skomer South for kicking puffins up the arse. But I digress. Any questions, please leave a message on my answerphone.
Goodbye.
I'd like to introduce myself as Hurrells newest seed merchant. My territory covers Skomer Island ( North ). I've been banned from selling seeds on Skomer South for kicking puffins up the arse. But I digress. Any questions, please leave a message on my answerphone.
Goodbye.
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- Montgomeryshire
Oh come on. Your cut & paste has nothing to do with the thread, it was just a blatant advert.
You might at least try to be subtle about it.?
There’s a section lower down the forum to put those in, where they can be more easily ignored, or not.
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- Cornwall.
As long as you kept to kicking then that's fine! ?
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- Ceredigion
Its all to do with you contastly digging about it . 2 or 3 times on this topic alone . Well now you have your answer
The
original geneplasm came from Aberystwyth then refined in Oxford
14 on the RM list some of them at the top
Why would we use seed of a lower standard
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- Ceredigion
But back to the op . This is cold wet land , water logged in winter . Just been re seeded , but it has had lime and cattle wont go on it only in dry weather
