Home energy grants

[som farmer]

Why and who done that ?

they had a stand at frome mkt,
will try and find a name, for you
only proceeded carefully as at a mkt, thought it was worth a shout, and it was.

ours was an outside boiler, but to be fair, they were genuine lads, well, nothing disappeared ! They had to get a local electrician to sign the work off, they sent somebody down, in the end. They were based 'up north'.

as for l/lords, its down as a tenants improvement !

 

[melted welly]

The landlord got to agree if any alterations to his property whatever?

Yes.

But if you’ve a draughty old cotterhouse that you’re getting £450 a month rent on, and can get a £40k grant to replace boiler, plumbing, all the radiators, insulate all exterior facing walls, install a heat pump and put panels on the roof, raising the energy rating so you get a green rating with the tenant paying the leccy, it’s a no brainer I think.

I do wonder if it’ll be counterproductive in that the tenants earning below the threshold ultimately won’t be able to afford the running costs, subsequently move out, allowing landlord to then let a very nicely refurbished “eco” property to better off tenants for £850 a month. .

I’m perhaps a bit sceptical, sure govt thought of that.

 

[serf]

they had a stand at frome mkt,
will try and find a name, for you
only proceeded carefully as at a mkt, thought it was worth a shout, and it was.

ours was an outside boiler, but to be fair, they were genuine lads, well, nothing disappeared ! They had to get a local electrician to sign the work off, they sent somebody down, in the end. They were based 'up north'.

as for l/lords, its down as a tenants improvement !

Bet it wouldn't get passed if there is solid fuel already spliced into the system would it ?

 

[som farmer]

Bet it wouldn't get passed if there is solid fuel already spliced into the system would it ?

????????? l thought it was a con, but it wasn't.

 

[goodevans]

I have a tenant in a house who was pressing me for cavity wall insulation,I wasnt too keen as they moved in as is so didnt see why I should go to more expense without a small rent increase as they are still very reasonably priced,turns out the are eligible for CWI ,loft insulation, solar panels and ASHP including new oversized radiator's,all at no cost to me,I could then serve notice and it all becomes my property( not that I am going to do that) so am now thinking seriously ,especially as the boilers quite old recent annual service £150 ish and radiators ancient

 

[cubby]

A company called eco 4 came here they wanted to dot and dab insulated plaster board to lath and plaster damp walls said it would be fine mate. Heard a few stories local just building walls infront off walls . I chased them we will do it properly as we can afford it .

 

[Farma Parma]

My Girlfriend claims one of the qualifying benefits so I can claim if it’s true.. also got these lot sending me messages View attachment 1148660View attachment 1148661

Good luck if you can get it
I cert cant & its my farming business no benefits here.
Iam just doing the Solar job tho
They can keep there Air Sourced heat pump things
Estate has just put one in a cottage here at there expence.
I wait too see what it really costs too run.

 

[Paddington]

We get cold calls about ASHPs and loft insulation. We tell the ASHP man we have no double glazing or cavity wall insulation (solid walls), also a dog who constantly is in and out leaving doors open. They lose interest. Rock wool insulation is now a dangerous material we are told and must be replaced, they will send a man around to survey our loft. Apart from the hassle of removing years of stored stuff, what is the rock wool replaced with ? Nobody has yet told me, as again they usually ring off when the discussion gets detailed.

 

[Foregoneconclusion]

our project is underway. likewise a couple of houses in the village being done. Internal wall insulation..100mm .. on the inside oif every external wall.. all rads removed first to enable access to walls and sparky blanked all switches and sockets.
If you,ve a stud wall that you want to pull down before they come then do it..theywill then use insulated battens to build back out from your old wall. (check that it is straight.. they dont check and just follow line to the wall)!!
Window reveals done with different stuff.. If youve nice window sills..remove them as they will cover them ...

After a few days of unholy noise, (funky techno beats from sound system) , every dunny in the house being used , dust everywhere, internal house temperaure matching outdoor as every door and window left wide open, a few tings getting broken and dogs being fed dodgy pies...i now have a quite cold dusty house...with plastered walls..
Every wet room- bathroom , dunny, laundry, kitchen has a fan fitted, these run 24 hrs a day at variable speeds depending on humidity.. But as house is cold as i haqve no heating , they are running hard.

Heating install starts 27th.. 2x 12kw ashp..

32 rads

Worth it, but check work protocols.. eg. make sure they pull up carpets. My lot jut put plasterboard ontop of carpets..meaning that when they come to run pipes for heating they are going to have to cut carpets up..

It'd better be worth the hassle!

 

[smallholder99]

does it work in cold weather,or could u be burning something below the ashp to warm it up a bit

 

[Yale]

our project is underway. likewise a couple of houses in the village being done. Internal wall insulation..100mm .. on the inside oif every external wall.. all rads removed first to enable access to walls and sparky blanked all switches and sockets.
If you,ve a stud wall that you want to pull down before they come then do it..theywill then use insulated battens to build back out from your old wall. (check that it is straight.. they dont check and just follow line to the wall)!!
Window reveals done with different stuff.. If youve nice window sills..remove them as they will cover them ...

After a few days of unholy noise, (funky techno beats from sound system) , every dunny in the house being used , dust everywhere, internal house temperaure matching outdoor as every door and window left wide open, a few tings getting broken and dogs being fed dodgy pies...i now have a quite cold dusty house...with plastered walls..
Every wet room- bathroom , dunny, laundry, kitchen has a fan fitted, these run 24 hrs a day at variable speeds depending on humidity.. But as house is cold as i haqve no heating , they are running hard.

Heating install starts 27th.. 2x 12kw ashp..

32 rads

Worth it, but check work protocols.. eg. make sure they pull up carpets. My lot jut put plasterboard ontop of carpets..meaning that when they come to run pipes for heating they are going to have to cut carpets up..

It'd better be worth the hassle!

One tip, with the oversized rads the folks bedroom they fitted an enormous radiator which ran to the window reveal. They ran the pipework across the room and could have fitted two smaller ones. Now the curtains don’t sit right as they have to fold over a triple radiator. Massive benefit here was all the kitchen, bathroom etc. were in the extension which just needed cavity wall blown in.

 

[Foregoneconclusion]

does it work in cold weather,or could u be burning something below the ashp to warm it up a bit

Well..start up for first heat pump was on Friday... a cold day.. minus 4..

House was cold, water cold, none of the pipes in The loft lagged..

So yes. Alot of leccy used i think 62kw in first 24 hours..

However. Once the part of the house being heated had warmed up..( to 18 degrees) and the weather warmed up.. the machine has run very frugally..

I have a wood burner going in the hallway which takes care of a big part of the larger spaces of the house still.

Second heat pump and remaining 14 rads being commissioned tomorrow, plus pipe lagging and hole filling so we will see what start up costs at this end of the house.

Much tinkering still to be had but after the initial shock it's been ok..I think...

 

[Foregoneconclusion]

One tip, with the oversized rads the folks bedroom they fitted an enormous radiator which ran to the window reveal. They ran the pipework across the room and could have fitted two smaller ones. Now the curtains don’t sit right as they have to fold over a triple radiator. Massive benefit here was all the kitchen, bathroom etc. were in the extension which just needed cavity wall blown in.

I wish I'd thought of that.. those mahoosive rads are a nightmare. However I may remove them one day and plumb in underfloor heating instead..

 

[Yale]

Well..start up for first heat pump was on Friday... a cold day.. minus 4..

House was cold, water cold, none of the pipes in The loft lagged..

So yes. Alot of leccy used i think 62kw in first 24 hours..

However. Once the part of the house being heated had warmed up..( to 18 degrees) and the weather warmed up.. the machine has run very frugally..

I have a wood burner going in the hallway which takes care of a big part of the larger spaces of the house still.

Second heat pump and remaining 14 rads being commissioned tomorrow, plus pipe lagging and hole filling so we will see what start up costs at this end of the house.

Much tinkering still to be had but after the initial shock it's been ok..I think...

You get past it.

Bad time of year now but the folks had 5kw of panels included and have contributed a fair bit of leccy. Folks paid for 6kw of batteries and they complement the system well.
If you are lucky this may happen!

 

[renewablejohn]

Well we applied for a cosy home grant. After 3 months of vetting finally accepted as being eligible. The great day arrived and the assessor turned up to declare what we are eligible for. Had not realised this stupid scheme in Lancashire has only one company installing the systems so even if its in the scheme booklet as a potential improvement to be done if the company does not do it than its tough your not going to get it installed.
Having stated ours was a very simple task as being listed all the improvements had already been thought out and approved in the listed building consent. So starting with the easy stuff the existing single glaze windows in wooden frames the council insisted had to be oak frames and triple glaze in the LBC which they could not install as they could only use plastic windows with double glazing. same with athe approved wooden double rebate doors, they could only install composite plastic. Total time wasters.

 

[Exfarmer]

When we talk about generation from the panels powering the ASHP
bear in mind my due South 8Kw of solar panels have generated just 3.3Kwh in the last 3 days!
This when herein the East we have had 3 days of near zero dank weather when the ASHP would be working on the built in immersion. I have a well insulated house but am glad for my gas supply!
To be fair the day before we produced 21Kw which was plenty to run the house and I suspect an ASHP would have run happily during the day

 

[steveR]

I haven’t heard many good reports about air source. Can be very expensive on electric!

Chatting with my engineer at the weekend and he is enthusiastic about the latest high temp ASHP that have come on the market recently. Water temp outputs around 70C instead of 30-35C with old ASHP installs. He did a fair bit of trial work on them.

Still prefers GSHP if you have the capital and room for the ground loop.

We are wondering if there is anyway to get a new heat pump here using grant money....

 

[Pistonbroke]

As soon as you mention a Farm ,even if your on qualifying benefits , and you got a cold,old , poor energy rated, fossil fuel coal etc fires they rarely get past the starting blocks and the phone goes dead.

I don't know why you have got that idea , they're actively targeting the farms round here. Three been done within a two mile radius in the last month that I know of.

 

[Still Farming]

I don't know why you have got that idea , they're actively targeting the farms round here. Three been done within a two mile radius in the last month that I know of.

I know where I got it from ?
The "Horses mouth" at the Senedd.

Firstly you got to be on qualifying benefits.

Secondly domestic property Not a Farm
Not a business.

That was the rules unless changed or those after business just ignoring rules possibly?

England, Scotland and Northern Ireland different possibly again

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[Yale]

I know where I got it from ?
The "Horses mouth" at the Senedd.

Firstly you got to be on qualifying benefits.

Secondly domestic property Not a Farm
Not a business.

That was the rules unless changed or those after business just ignoring rules possibly?

England, Scotland and Northern Ireland different possibly again

Get help with energy efficiency in your home from Nest | GOV.WALES

Nest provides energy efficiency improvements and impartial advice for households.

nest.gov.wales

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