How to establish OSR with very wet ground?

Discussion in 'Cropping' started by Feldspar, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. murphy

    murphy Member

    Usual osr sowing conditions forNE Scotland !
     
  2. RTK Farmer

    RTK Farmer Member

    Location:
    Cambridgeshire UK
    Lee, you general negativity and constant tirade against input suppliers gets very boring. Cheer up for Gods sake.
     
  3. warksfarmer

    warksfarmer Member

    No. They are con artists.
     
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  4. We rolled some last year when prob 20% or so of the rape was like that & had no problem at all - didn't like doing it at time but wouldn't hesitate to do it again! Cheers dh
     
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  5. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

    Location:
    lothians
    12m
     
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  6. Can you put OSR on accurately enough with a weigh cell fert spinner?
     
  7. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    That depends on the spinner but even the longest vanes & highest disc speed will only make it fly so far. OSR simply isn't dense enough to overcome the air resistance which eventually slows it's travelling distance. A tray test is best.
     
  8. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

    Location:
    lothians
    12 m is wide enough for anyone, why bother with a tray test?
    By the time you have done a tray test you could be finished.
     
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  9. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    Stripes and all
     
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  10. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

    Location:
    lothians
    At 12m you wont stripe it with a centreliner
    At 24m its very likely
     
  11. If its wet, plough it. By working a deeper layer of soil the rain has more chance to get away rather than ponding and drowning your crop. It's not pretty but it works.
     
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  12. Not enough time, equipment or manpower to do that. Drilling with the Claydon in a nicer field atm and going well. Finally a nice drying day too.
     
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  13. Of course, the Claydon makes it all seem like childsplay. But I work in wet ground a lot, and I see various things tried. Ploughing is safer when it comes to the potential for excess moisture in the equation- you artificially create a layer that will drain faster, that is the crux of it. It's not clever or pretty but it works.

    I would Claydon nearly everything if I knew I could choose when it would happen and that we would have time for crops to become established before the winter closed in. In my experience of it, it does make you question why anyone bothers doing anything else, but then you see the stuff other people end up being forced to do because of the situations they face at the time.
     
  14. woodylane

    woodylane Member

    Location:
    Lancashire
    Is it not preferable to make sure you do get a crop from it as if you rip it up you'll have just scuppered your rotation and won't be able to put OSR in that field for another 4 years?
     
  15. If the land in question is so bad that you are contemplating chucking farm saved OSR seed on it with a fertiliser spreader and waiting to see if it has survived in spring, should you really be trying to grow an arable crop on it at all?
     
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  16. fudge

    fudge Member

    It won't be that bad we've just had a wet spell that's all. You are right about a ploughing tho, if heavy land is "too wet" at this time of year ploughing is very effective. Speeds the drying a treat.
     
  17. Farm Marketplace

    Farm Marketplace New Member

    Location:
    Staffordshire
  18. John

    John Member

    Location:
    Cambridge
    Started planting ours today.
     

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  19. Oat

    Oat Member

    Location:
    Cheshire
    much chaff?:eek:
     
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  20. warksfarmer

    warksfarmer Member

    Not had a rotation since 2012.
     

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