with the standard get out clause that the ticket is only as good as the day it was tested
HSE inspections
- Thread starter neilo
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- Location
- Scottish Highlands
You may have something to lose, but you have plenty to gain too. An independent doesn’t have any conflict of interest.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
I’d read the whole CoP (linked) and form your own opinion. Then document everything to a standard that would be acceptable to a FAI. I don’t know enough about your circumstances to advise, sorry.
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
I'm just an interested bystander, so it doesn't affect me. Just curious as to the rules that's all. They may be helpful to others.
- Location
- Yorks
I've got my telehandler certificate. Brother doesn't have telehandler certificate, so in theory isn't driving telehandler.
Brother is a farm mechanic. Can he issue a loler inspection ticket for our telehandler?
Brother is a farm mechanic. Can he issue a loler inspection ticket for our telehandler?
- Location
- The North
let me know how you get one with costs im in same boat as you one man band with quad and teleporter mantianed by myself...
- Location
- The North
i cant see why not, its more about recording inspections and acting upon issues with records.
Nearly
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- Location
- North of York
Could one of you change your surname?
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Don’t be stupid. If you can’t guarantee and demonstrate independence and all that the ACoP expects, get someone else to do it for you.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I looked on the Lantra website, where you can get details of the courses available and local trainers that offer them.
The one I rang quoted me £200 for the one day telehandler course and £145 for the atv course, both with their kit on their premises.
There were longer courses but i’m After doing the bare minimum to keep the HSE man satisfied tbh. Two days wasted when i’ve Got plenty on is more than enough afaic.
- Location
- Yorks
Could both change our surnames if we thought it would save £100 every 6 months per telehandler. Somehow seem to have gathered together 3 telehandlers at our place. One for each yard plus a spare.
Providing he is deemed competant, and is independant from the person who does the machine repairs, yes he can.
Quite simple really.
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
Why doesn't he just get a telehandler ticket? Could make his life easier if he's an Ag mechanic?
I wonder if you need to operate the handler to do a LOLER test? In which case you'd need a handler certificate?
davidroberts30
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- Location
- pembrokeshire
Our tester gets me to drive it...
- Location
- North West Wales
As you’re only repairing, servicing or testing the machine it’s not a requirement to hold the certificate of competency! I tried my best to get a 360 and dumper ticket some years wgo!! Could also operate a Hiab crane for testing or fault finding purposes but couldn’t use it to lift or load something!
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
Our tester gets me to drive it...
If its a company with a certified LOLER tester (whatever that is ) I'd say the tester should certainly have a telehandler certificate, surely a proper test involves a 'road test'?
Every HGV mechanic I know round here has a full truck and trailer licence, same thing in my opinion . They cant have it both ways.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Update on the bale stacking requirements.....
I had a phone call from my HSE inspector at lunchtime. Apparently the various inspectors have had a discussion regarding stacking bales and the ‘feedback’ they have received from this first round of visits. They have decided that we no longer need to restock the quadrant bales as I described above, but to use the stacks to waste (as in use them as normal). When we stack next year’s Bales, we should stack them so that they are stepped back every two layers, with no need to do the perpendicular ‘tieing in’ bales.
They have apparently listened to the feedback from farmers, it’s just a pity they didn’t speak to someone in the real world before they did their desktop recommendations. This is exactly why the HSE Inspectorate is held in such low regard by so many.
He did also say that all of the farmers that he’d inspected had been ‘gents’, and that some of the other inspectors had been ‘less fortunate’.
I had a phone call from my HSE inspector at lunchtime. Apparently the various inspectors have had a discussion regarding stacking bales and the ‘feedback’ they have received from this first round of visits. They have decided that we no longer need to restock the quadrant bales as I described above, but to use the stacks to waste (as in use them as normal). When we stack next year’s Bales, we should stack them so that they are stepped back every two layers, with no need to do the perpendicular ‘tieing in’ bales.
They have apparently listened to the feedback from farmers, it’s just a pity they didn’t speak to someone in the real world before they did their desktop recommendations. This is exactly why the HSE Inspectorate is held in such low regard by so many.
He did also say that all of the farmers that he’d inspected had been ‘gents’
, and that some of the other inspectors had been ‘less fortunate’.
kiwi pom
Member
- Location
- canterbury NZ
Update on the bale stacking requirements.....
I had a phone call from my HSE inspector at lunchtime. Apparently the various inspectors have had a discussion regarding stacking bales and the ‘feedback’ they have received from this first round of visits. They have decided that we no longer need to restock the quadrant bales as I described above, but to use the stacks to waste (as in use them as normal). When we stack next year’s Bales, we should stack them so that they are stepped back every two layers, with no need to do the perpendicular ‘tieing in’ bales.
They have apparently listened to the feedback from farmers, it’s just a pity they didn’t speak to someone in the real world before they did their desktop recommendations. This is exactly why the HSE Inspectorate is held in such low regard by so many.
He did also say that all of the farmers that he’d inspected had been ‘gents’
Good result
They listened to feedback, decided someone had been wrong when it came to stacking bales (the inspectors probably didn't make up the rules in the first place) and have made changes.People don't often admit they got things wrong these days. Perhaps they should be given a bit more respect by some.
Well done for being one of the 'gents'.
To be pedantic, it's an inspection, not a test.
The two things are quite different.