Hunting goats and rams in Scotland....photo evidence

[brigadoon]

Reality check.

She shot a goat and a ram . . . . .

I shot a ram last week, and i didn't even give it a sporting chance.

Some black rams out on a hill in scotland, will be harder stalked than a lot of roe in the south of england.

That ram got twatted with a .243 or similar. he didn't know owt about it. Probably better than going on a lorry etc etc.

I repeat . . . . she shot a goat and a sheep. Don't cry.

I seem to recall that in the F&M debacle in 2001 there was a blackie ewe in Devon with a pair of twins who posed a bit of a challenge - the guys trying to get her reckoned she could hear a car door shut half a mile away

 

[brigadoon]

if you want to get all pedantic with the english langauge then 'hunting' can also allude to the activity of searching for something. which in this case is a domesticated animal

Try to focus on the second paragraph

 

[spark_28]

Try to focus on the second paragraph

so what is the shooting of a domesticated ram on a hill, acquired for the sole purpose to be shot definded as? if its for the trophy of its horns then why is that not trophy hunting?

 

[brigadoon]

so what is the shooting of a domesticated ram on a hill, acquired for the sole purpose to be shot definded as? if its for the trophy of its horns then why is that not trophy hunting?

Shooting a domesticated sheep is exactly that - nothing more and nothing less.

Now, you say that the ram was acquired for that purpose alone - I cannot comment on that - what I can do - somewhat wearily - is to again direct you to the posts above in which you will find no defence whatever of any sporting aspect of shooting sheep in fields.

Which has nothing whatever to do with hunting

And that, before a mod steps in to tell us how boring this is getting, is where I will leave it.

 

[blacksheepcontracting]

The world has gone mad.

I see nothing wrong with it.

If anything I think it should be encouraged and shared in a positive way as a chance to reconnect people with their food.

I shot coyotes, beavers and bears in Canada for reasons such as protecting livestock, estate management and pleasure. I even cashed in the coyote paws and beaver tails with the local council for the bounty that exists on them. All legal, all encouraged

 

[Macsky]

Firstly, the hilarity of her having "Hunted" a potentially tame ram? Come on, mock that one.

Secondly, why are you all so upet? Are there no other animals there that one can trophy hunt that this is new to you? I'd think there'd be some deer around that get nice antlers to earn a trophy status.

Many animals are raised here for hunting purposes. Deer farms that transport bucks out to the country side to repopulate hunting season. Pheasants are released not even a mile from me every fall and are currently everywhere while the big city hunters drive around at a snails pace to find them.

A farm is a farm. If a farmer can get a better profit raising sheep for hunting than for butchering, who are you to tell them they're giving farming a bad name? They're raised to die in some way, be it hunted or slaughtered. Are we now going to sit judgement on what market people find for their animals? As long as the hunting stays on the up and up and it's not just a shooting frenzy with no skill what's so wrong with it.

Start basing your farming decisions on PETA and you might as well give up and move to town. They'll be against the fact it was hunted, the fact it's 12 times great grandfather was farmed and then neglected enough to go feral, the fact it was posed for a photo afterward, maybe the fact it was farmed for that purpose, etc. You're never going to make them happy.

Your last paragraph is absolutely bang on. The likes of PETA aren’t interested in good welfare, they want farming done away with altogether!

There’s enough hysterical reaction on FB et al, we don’t need any more here. I don’t agree with trophy hunting (posing with a dead animal is a bit disturbing), I don’t even agree with the idea of raising pheasants just to shoot them for sport, but it doesn’t harm me or anyone really, so it doesn’t stress me out, there are thousands of more pressing issues in the world.

In reality here the animal was killed lawfully, we can assume with minimal suffering, nobody was harmed in any way, shape or form (feelings don’t count here), and it brought some money into the rural economy. If we keep going down the road of hurt feelings, just about anything could become a crime!

 

[MRT]

if you want to get all pedantic with the english langauge then 'hunting' can also allude to the activity of searching for something. which in this case is a domesticated animal

Or searching for a capital letter. Next level English language pedantry

 

[spark_28]

 

[Dry Rot]

Don't they feed deer to get better heads?

 

[spark_28]

The world has gone mad.

I see nothing wrong with it.

If anything I think it should be encouraged and shared in a positive way as a chance to reconnect people with their food.

I shot coyotes, beavers and bears in Canada for reasons such as protecting livestock, estate management and pleasure. I even cashed in the coyote paws and beaver tails with the local council for the bounty that exists on them. All legal, all encouraged

shooting anything for none other than pleasure is wrong. simple as that.

 

[CopperBeech]

Ive got 228 fat lambs heading for Dunbia tomorrow lunch time, currently in a field. If someone wants to pay me 100 quid they can go shoot one with a .243 and take the meat home, as long as its a single humane shot.

And the problem is?

 

[Blaithin]

Ive got 228 fat lambs heading for Dunbia tomorrow lunch time, currently in a field. If someone wants to pay me 100 quid they can go shoot one with a .243 and take the meat home, as long as its a single humane shot.

And the problem is?

Even if they didn’t want to eat it... you could make use of it. Eat it yourself, or dog food.

If it’s humane and not done on a mass scale to negatively impact the population, what’s the issue. Nothing is ever wasted. If we don’t eat it, something will.

 

[CopperBeech]

Even if they didn’t want to eat it... you could make use of it. Eat it yourself, or dog food.

If it’s humane and not done on a mass scale to negatively impact the population, what’s the issue. Nothing is ever wasted. If we don’t eat it, something will.

This woman talks sense people!

When we want lamb chops we generally go for a ride on the quad and go pick a lamb, it gets shot. We eat lamb.

The yanks want to pay money to shoot something we can breed easily and keep replacing and which we were going to kill and eat anyway . . . . . .sounds ideal to me.

 

[Dr. Alkathene]

Do you go on social media? have you seen the uproar caused by these images. not saying they will neccessarily boycott lamb but images like this do not help.

Yes I have. They are the same people who frothed at the keyboard in uproar the other week when that program was on about plastic in the sea. This week they are back to buying bottled water and chucking the empties out the car window.

Next week they will all be frothing at the keyboard in uproar about something else and ditto the week after.

 

[Dr. Alkathene]

shooting anything for none other than pleasure is wrong.

In your opinion

 

[unlacedgecko]

Don't they feed deer to get better heads?

They also feed them to ensure winter survival.

 

[dogjon]

And here I was thinking that canned hunts were just a Texas thing.

 

[TALDLONKTUP2]

Probably paid £1000 or more to stalk and shoot a blackie ram better payback than £80 cull price not the most challenging quarry granted but money for old rope.

Maybe all those bf breeders selecting for bonny heeds and fancy horns aren't so daft after all...!!!

It's not a cull tup, looks like a bloom dipped shearling to me (look at new horn growth) face washed, picked up recently from a tup sale, either for the purpose of been shot or someones going to be missing a tup and damned annoyed.....make of that what you will. Then what about withdrawals, if to be eaten?

I must say, though it is irrational, there is something distasteful about hunting a domesticated animal for fun...It probably came running looking for some feed!!

 

[Wilddog]

Is this why the Blackie breeders have focused on heads for the last few years! One step ahead of the rest of us.

 

[tinsheet]

Is this why the Blackie breeders have focused on heads for the last few years! One step ahead of the rest of us.