M-J-G
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100% pure doesn't matter, they get to a stage where they are classed as pure/pedigree and the rest doesn't matter.
Plenty of pedigree cattle will not be 100% pure.
If you tell lies you'll get caught out eventually
- Thread starter M-J-G
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Plenty of pedigree cattle will not be 100% pure.
Sir loin
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- Location
- North Yorkshire
Very tempted to go if I wasn't a closed herd then I would be there. I run a 50 cow herd of pure Lims looking for some Jaegerbomb semen if anyone has some.
Wbarker96
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- Location
- Scorton, North Yorkshire
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Sir loin
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- Location
- North Yorkshire
Thanks for that semenstore are still saying unavailable
M-J-G
Member
With their close links to the Lim Society it would look bad if they were still selling it.
M-J-G
Member
Not now he won't ?
M-J-G
Member
+50% of beef price is the least they can be to make it worthwhile and every day over 16 months is more cost.
Any less is a waste of time IMO
Any less is a waste of time IMO
- Location
- North Antrim
Would that even be close given the real cost of producing bulls, the feeding costs only being part of the extra cost over and above commercial beef cattle?
- Location
- Buxton, Derbyshire
We find that, particularly for bulls going to commercial or dairy use, that there is a glass ceiling of £2000 that people won't go past. I've had people hang up as soon as I ask for more than £2000, which in my mind is cheap for a bull.
Therefore I'm feeding all ours the same, so that any sold for breeding are a bonus. As opposed to feeding everything a fancy ration and end up making a loss on most of them.
- Location
- somerset
as a dairy farmer, we use bulls to sweep up after ai, as we block spr calve, our bull requirements are for number, then, as we should be using quality bulls, we tend to buy on price, in a real world, we would be buying the best...…. We do keep a lookout for young bulls, and can be lucky enough to buy odd one or two reasonable. But, in all honesty, £2000, is really very top price for us.
It starts to get expensive at that rate
they are bringing in dna testing for blues next year and from what I can gather its mainly in response to this rubbish
You're loading the cost of two DNA tests on to one calf there, if the mother goes on to have five calves then it works out at £8 per calf. The daughter's test should be paid by the next generation.
I don't register many male calves any more, I'll have to watch out for any second calvers that had steers last year as they won't know about those and will probably need to have a test. Probably will do a myostatin test as well as a parentage as might be useful to know when choosing bulls for future use.
M-J-G
Member
As a minimum price for a bull that's not trained or fed for a sale that's what I've gone by.
I've generally set a minimum of £2500 for 15 month old unfed bulls adding £2.50/day thereafter. The last bull of the was on might get a discount.
For a sale bull you'd need at least £3500.
A lot sell for less.
Rubber rings aren't expensive, not using them can be. The skilled part is identifying which to take on for breeding and which not to.
M-J-G
Member
Dairy farmers aren't usually prepared to pay much for a beef bull, they don't value them much and most of them certainly don't value a good bull much over an average one.
Sir loin
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- Location
- North Yorkshire
where can you find his figures want to make sure he is ok for heifers
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Would his figures be particularly accurate if the parentage is ‘questionable’? (Supposed) relatives’ data would be used in the BLUP analysis to get that data. Unless that has all been updated now too, his figures would lack accuracy until a lot of his own progeny data had been added (which it may have been now of course, given his widespread usage).