I'm British get me outa here.

[Hindsight]

And lots of cheep beef coming in to compete with your irish stuff

Think we are still buying those F35 or whatever number they. Presume the eventual price will be a finger in the air job!!

 

[Henarar]

We're all doomed .

he looked p1ssed
they are all well p1ssed off

 

[Jackov Altraids]

I don't want to discuss what Juncker said, but could someone give me a true and accurate assessment with how he has the authority to declare the future for the EU and the process by which it was influenced by member countries?

 

[stewart]

Staring blocks on same day.
Eurocrat says "Guten Morgen, I bring you 450 million consumers".
Toff from the foreign office says "I say, I say, I say, do be a good chap and trade with my 50 million consumers"!

Who does Aussie sit with first?

G'day mate!

A trade deal with the antipodes will be easy. Both countries would be likely welcome a free trade agreement with both the U.K. And the E.U. In the case of the U.K. most of the trade will be one way.

 

[stewart]

Just seen Junkies speech.... what a prat .

Just read it too. Cannot see much wrong with it, he has a vision for closer defense union and for all European countries to join the Euro. He also said that the U.K. will regret Brexit.

 

[Ashtree]

I don't want to discuss what Juncker said, but could someone give me a true and accurate assessment with how he has the authority to declare the future for the EU and the process by which it was influenced by member countries?

He gave his assessment of the future.
Far cry from a declaration.

Henry VIII used to "declare" stuff into law whenever his gout flared up or the latest queen failed to deliver a boy!!!

Now his powers are back in vogue in London again. If you hear the sound of scaffolding being erected in the background it's probably a bunch of Poles or Paddy's getting ready to prepare the Tower of London for what it was originally intended.

PS: Maybe Corbyn should go into hiding for a bit. If you know if some out of the way convents, perhaps you could let him know.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

He gave his assessment of the future.
Far cry from a declaration.

Henry VIII used to "declare" stuff into law whenever his gout flared up or the latest queen failed to deliver a boy!!!

Now his powers are back in vogue in London again. If you hear the sound of scaffolding being erected in the background it's probably a bunch of Poles or Paddy's getting ready to prepare the Tower of London for what it was originally intended.

Not the helpful reply I was after. I may have been wrong with the use of the word 'declare' but he certainly made it clear which path he intended to lead the EU down.

 

[RobFZS]

I don't want to discuss what Juncker said, but could someone give me a true and accurate assessment with how he has the authority to declare the future for the EU and the process by which it was influenced by member countries?

Because he's been 'elected' by the heads of states, he talks to all the 'important' bods in the EU and where they want to head and then he puts it out as a speech that can be easily taken in by the masses.

The Eu seems to be a trading block thats been hijacked by the federalists, if we had a vote on what would people rather have, a political union, or just a trading block, the block would win miles ahead , thank god the World Trade organisation is slowly getting it's act together and harmonizing things to slowly make the EU obsolete, then we will have a global single market of goods and services.

I find it most telling that the Europhiles on here, mainly being Walter and Ashtree have said very little about the speech by the most important person in the whole commission, very telling indeed, are they ashamed? do they not believe what he say's? Stockholm syndrome? Walter was singing the praises of him last week, saying he's pulled a blinder, yet now the cat's out of the bag again, he doesn't want to sell federalism?

They all know they're being as selective of the truth as Farage and co, except like the left, they think they're right and it's a means to the end.

 

[Roger Perry]

Why are you sweating all the small stuff, (he said-she said)
I read a report yesterday by one of your very successful businessmen, James Dyson who said that as a % of world trade the EU was at 12% but would be down to 9% in three years, surely you guys would be better off as a nation to hitch your wagon to a star such as Asia or the Americas, rather than one that is falling like Europe..?

 

[bobk]

Why are you sweating all the small stuff, (he said-she said)
I read a report yesterday by one of your very successful businessmen, James Dyson who said that as a % of world trade the EU was at 12% but would be down to 9% in three years, surely you guys would be better off as a nation to hitch your wagon to a star such as Asia or the Americas, rather than one that is falling like Europe..?

We are leaving , it's just the ex wants an inordinate payout .

 

[RobFZS]

Why are you sweating all the small stuff, (he said-she said)
I read a report yesterday by one of your very successful businessmen, James Dyson who said that as a % of world trade the EU was at 12% but would be down to 9% in three years, surely you guys would be better off as a nation to hitch your wagon to a star such as Asia or the Americas, rather than one that is falling like Europe..?

We've had politicians join us up from something that used to resemble NAFTA, that is now resembling it's own country and thus, we've handed over most of the powers that are needed to be a trading nation, customs agencies, trade negotiators, etc etc, so it will take years to build these back up ,

I'm sure the whole thing is quite sad looking in from the outside at the little Europeans

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Why are you sweating all the small stuff, (he said-she said)
I read a report yesterday by one of your very successful businessmen, James Dyson who said that as a % of world trade the EU was at 12% but would be down to 9% in three years, surely you guys would be better off as a nation to hitch your wagon to a star such as Asia or the Americas, rather than one that is falling like Europe..?

I'm not sure we need to hitch our wagon to anybody. We can follow anyone headed where we want to go and if no one else is going there, we should lead the way.
I'm not sure how much we are sweating, but we are finally having some of the discussions we should have had years ago.
What is important to note about Junckers' speech, is the change of tone from a year ago when he was more conciliatory and muted the possibility of reform. His change of tone is due to elections in member countries and not European elections. Is this how it should work?
If people don't vote for far right parties are they considered all pro-EU?
Again, I'm genuinely interested in the process.

 

[bobk]

This chap ain't bothered

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41265718

 

[stewart]

We've had politicians join us up from something that used to resemble NAFTA, that is now resembling it's own country and thus, we've handed over most of the powers that are needed to be a trading nation, customs agencies, trade negotiators, etc etc, so it will take years to build these back up ,

I'm sure the whole thing is quite sad looking in from the outside at the little Europeans

I live outside Europe so will be looking at it from the outside. I do not see it as sad for the Europeans at all, far from it. After spending a week in the U.K. And currently traveling around Europe I feel sad for the U.K.

The small minded critics of Europe said the freedom of movement within Europe would not work, nor would the Euro, both seem to be working fine.

Whenever I am asked if I would move back to England most people are surprised when I say no. If they push me for a reason my usual response is " I like visiting museums but don't want to live in one"

 

[Ashtree]

Why are you sweating all the small stuff, (he said-she said)
I read a report yesterday by one of your very successful businessmen, James Dyson who said that as a % of world trade the EU was at 12% but would be down to 9% in three years, surely you guys would be better off as a nation to hitch your wagon to a star such as Asia or the Americas, rather than one that is falling like Europe..?

All the time assuming the EU isn't open to trading with the growth nations of the globe .... which it is. UK potentially walking away from the huge EU market right in its back garden AND all those countries with which EU already has trade deals AND thereafter competing with the EU (4.5 times its size) for the attention of other markets for new deals AND really pi55ing off Japan in the process whose companies have invested really heavily in the UK partly as a gateway into the EU!
I just cannot see the business logic from a straight up trading standpoint ! It's simply counter intuitive !!

 

[Henarar]

All the time assuming the EU isn't open to trading with the growth nations of the globe .... which it is. UK potentially walking away from the huge EU market right in its back garden AND all those countries with which EU already has trade deals AND thereafter competing with the EU (4.5 times its size) for the attention of other markets for new deals AND really pi55ing off Japan in the process whose companies have invested really heavily in the UK partly as a gateway into the EU!
I just cannot see the business logic from a straight up trading standpoint ! It's simply counter intuitive !!

oh well never mind keep looking sunshine

 

[RobFZS]

I live outside Europe so will be looking at it from the outside. I do not see it as sad for the Europeans at all, far from it. After spending a week in the U.K. And currently traveling around Europe I feel sad for the U.K.

The small minded critics of Europe said the freedom of movement within Europe would not work, nor would the Euro, both seem to be working fine.

Whenever I am asked if I would move back to England most people are surprised when I say no. If they push me for a reason my usual response is " I like visiting museums but don't want to live in one"

You clearly have a different definition of 'fine' to me, vast inequality across nations, vast rates of unemployment especially in the youth, a lost generation essentially, but this is all ok. Weird.

If you backed Nato, If you backed Global trade, you would not have to worry about nationalism on the rise again thanks to the one size fits all direction the EU puts out.

The EU is soo great, yet you don't live it in, another dreamer.

Answer me this, what good is freedom of movement, if you can't afford to move because you've got no job? all it encourages is, what can the state do for me, rather than what can i do for the state.

Also we're on about the European Union, not the Land mass of Europe which contains 44 countries.

 

[czechmate]

You clearly have a different definition of 'fine' to me, vast inequality across nations, vast rates of unemployment especially in the youth, a lost generation essentially, but this is all ok. Weird.

If you backed Nato, If you backed Global trade, you would not have to worry about nationalism on the rise again thanks to the one size fits all direction the EU puts out.

The EU is soo great, yet you don't live it in, another dreamer.

Answer me this, what good is freedom of movement, if you can't afford to move because you've got no job? all it encourages is, what can the state do for me, rather than what can i do for the state.

Also we're on about the European Union, not the Land mass of Europe which contains 44 countries.

Have you ever considered living a real life rather than one on social media?
Sign of the times I suppose

 

[RobFZS]

Have you ever considered living a real life rather than one on social media?
Sign of the times I suppose

i do both, i was on the lash last night, then got home and boned the Mrs, fairly sure that was the same time you were posting in here? suppose you have to take it easy in your advanced bitter age, yes?

Honestly, either debate brexit or don't bother, i'll just emasculate you, i get it, your mind is bare, you have 0 to say, but want to put me off, that's fine, it's amusing, yet sad, senility setting in i suppose.

I'm terribly sorry if 5 mins of my day to eviscerate you arseholes is concerning you, though

 

[czechmate]

i do both, i was on the lash last night, then got home and boned the Mrs, fairly sure that was the same time you were posting in here? suppose you have to take it easy in your advanced bitter age, yes?

Honestly, either debate brexit or don't bother, i'll just emasculate you, i get it, your mind is bare, you have 0 to say, but want to put me off, that's fine, it's amusing, yet sad, senility setting in i suppose.

Could be
Thanks for the concern

Am I ever greatfull that neither of my daughters are with such an unpleasant and disrespectful specimen as you