Individual lambing pens

Joe

Member
Location
Carlow Ireland
I'd really rather people went for the various stockboard or metal options. You cannot disinfect wood. It's unhygienic.

Serious question, maybe I dreamt this up but anyway...
I seem to remember that it was always presumed that plastic / metal chopping boards were more hygienic, but when tested wood in a real world scenario was because it was easier to disinfect/clean. Think this was down to plastic/metal being easier to scratch and therefore more places for bacteria etc to live. Would this not be the same for plastic / metal lambing pens?

I know here always preferred wood lambing pens to metal, haven't tried stockboard / plastic...
 

Nithsdale

Member
Livestock Farmer
Serious question, maybe I dreamt this up but anyway...
I seem to remember that it was always presumed that plastic / metal chopping boards were more hygienic, but when tested wood in a real world scenario was because it was easier to disinfect/clean. Think this was down to plastic/metal being easier to scratch and therefore more places for bacteria etc to live. Would this not be the same for plastic / metal lambing pens?

I know here always preferred wood lambing pens to metal, haven't tried stockboard / plastic...


Agree.
 

hillman

Member
Location
Wicklow Ireland
Serious question, maybe I dreamt this up but anyway...
I seem to remember that it was always presumed that plastic / metal chopping boards were more hygienic, but when tested wood in a real world scenario was because it was easier to disinfect/clean. Think this was down to plastic/metal being easier to scratch and therefore more places for bacteria etc to live. Would this not be the same for plastic / metal lambing pens?

I know here always preferred wood lambing pens to metal, haven't tried stockboard / plastic...

Agree as well Joe , always wooden here , on suggested thinking then bedding with pine shaving wouldn't be anyuse then .,..:whistle:
 

glensman

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Antrim
Serious question, maybe I dreamt this up but anyway...
I seem to remember that it was always presumed that plastic / metal chopping boards were more hygienic, but when tested wood in a real world scenario was because it was easier to disinfect/clean. Think this was down to plastic/metal being easier to scratch and therefore more places for bacteria etc to live. Would this not be the same for plastic / metal lambing pens?

I know here always preferred wood lambing pens to metal, haven't tried stockboard / plastic...
also moisture condenses on metal, wood stays dry and is warmer.
 

Sheep92

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ireland
Mostly wooden pens here too, hard to beat them and easy to fix if anything breaks, to be honest, i dont think i could justify buying a hundred odd solway pens... maybe if i was on a vets salary (y)
 

bovine

Member
Location
North
I expect wooden lambing pens will be around as long as I am. My problem is they are impossible to sterilise. When I lambed as a vet student I remember tying hurdles together with the fossilised sh!t on from last year. How many people make an effort to power-wash and disinfect them? There is a general unwillingness on most farms to muck out between sheep.

When we can't use routine antibiotics any more in sheep, people will have to improve their hygiene. A smooth, clean, disinfected surface is one step towards that.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I expect wooden lambing pens will be around as long as I am. My problem is they are impossible to sterilise. When I lambed as a vet student I remember tying hurdles together with the fossilised sh!t on from last year. How many people make an effort to power-wash and disinfect them? There is a general unwillingness on most farms to muck out between sheep.

When we can't use routine antibiotics any more in sheep, people will have to improve their hygiene. A smooth, clean, disinfected surface is one step towards that.

If lambing hurdles are stacked away on a pallet and stored under cover for 9 months or more before re-use, how many bugs are likely to survive on them from one year to the next?

Serious question, as I have never washed mine off (not that I let them get particularly dirty anyway) but do the above every year, and have done for the last 30 odd years.

I did spray some of them for woodworm one year, if that counts.:)
 

bovine

Member
Location
North
We know that clostridia form spores that can last many years in the environment.

There are occasional reports of mycobacteria (Johne's) lasting many months.

It would be interesting to culture a fossilised turd and see if I can grow anything.

Orf can survive. Ringworm does in wood.
 

llamedos

New Member
We know that clostridia form spores that can last many years in the environment.

There are occasional reports of mycobacteria (Johne's) lasting many months.

It would be interesting to culture a fossilised turd and see if I can grow anything.

Orf can survive. Ringworm does in wood.

Bit of scaremongering there :sneaky: clostridia spores are highly resistant to both high and low temp, radiation, no matter what the surface it has adhered to, including stainless steel & glass. Cant see farmers getting rid of it with a power washer, when the food industry as a whole has struggled with all the tools in their armoury.
 
We have 4ft x 4ft hurdle pens. Two double rows with a ply board wall running down the centre (as you can see from the picture they can have a bit of a curve on). 36 pens all together is handy as always walking by to and fro so easy to keep an eye on lambs rather than being shoved here there and everywhere. Have got about 25 other pens elsewhere. Have had the hurdles for years just moved them to a better place for pens. Clean out and disinfect between every ewe that goes into them.

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2tractors

Member
Location
Cornwall
Have two hundred wooden hurdles, disinfected between ewes, pressure washed at end of lambing, never (knowerly ) had a problem in 30 years.
Advantages over steel, repairable, newborn lambs don't escape and cheap!
 

Joe

Member
Location
Carlow Ireland
I expect wooden lambing pens will be around as long as I am. My problem is they are impossible to sterilise. When I lambed as a vet student I remember tying hurdles together with the fossilised sh!t on from last year. How many people make an effort to power-wash and disinfect them? There is a general unwillingness on most farms to muck out between sheep.

When we can't use routine antibiotics any more in sheep, people will have to improve their hygiene. A smooth, clean, disinfected surface is one step towards that.

Think this is fair comment, would it depend on how long you keep sheep in the pens though? Would use lime here between penning's and be unusual for ewe and lambs to be in a pen more than 2 days.
 
If lambing hurdles are stacked away on a pallet and stored under cover for 9 months or more before re-use, how many bugs are likely to survive on them from one year to the next?

Serious question, as I have never washed mine off (not that I let them get particularly dirty anyway) but do the above every year, and have done for the last 30 odd years.

I did spray some of them for woodworm one year, if that counts.:)
And also the wooden ones are less attractive to the theives
 

sixrow

Member
The eyelets are 20mm internal, 35mm external, you can buy them in good numbers, cheap on eBay. Normally use 9mm rod as really cheap and don't get too much of a beating on lambing pens. Have got some 12mm which withstand abit more abuse in holding pens
Thank you what length are the eyelets in total .
 

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