Infectious disease, including TB

[john.wantling]

You think this is bad, you should see his FaceBook page.
He has told all his FaceBook 'friends' that he is trying to 'educate' farmers on an ag forum, but we are all to stupid and brainwashed to listen to him.
One of his FaceBook 'friends' mentioned that the farmers who own the fields around his house are constantly spraying organophosphates over everything, JW replies that that is what farmers do, destroy the environment because they don't understand it.

Just in case the Rochdale one missed it earlier, here's that number again 01706 676100. They can help you John, give them a call.

Storeman, I suggest two things, first of all, grow up; secondly, for the members of this group to cease calling me names, and to put your money where your mouth is. Pick up the phone, call Professor Krebs, tell him that you have found the mode of transmission, and then an executive taxi will drive you to London for your appointment with the Queen of England. Once you have proved that you have found this illusive mode of transmission that no human being has ever found, I can pack up and go home. This is all that you need to do. Sadly, every time I have raised this issue, an issue that can make you a millionaire, an overnight sensation, the whole groups goes silent. No response, no phone call to Professor Krebs, no appointment with the Queen. The only thing that you can do is call me more names. You do not understand anything about propaganda, you do not understand anything about the conditioned response. These are concrete facts, and as I repeat, when you support a theoretical science that does not translate into fact, then you are in deep water. This means you are so easily led, easy to manipulate. The fact that you defend the 'science' that is systematically destroying you, is a prime example of the situation. Self destruction is the end product. Instead of understanding that, you close your eyes and then more name calling. Pick up that phone and prove that you have this mode of transmission. But you know that you dont have the guts to do that simply because you have not got it, and will never ever find it, apart from in theory. John Wantling, Rochdale

 

[FonterraFarmer]

With respect?
The point you make?
How come you completely disregard my earlier posts, where I showed the cow licking the possum in the paddock as it dies, and gave the facts of what was found upon PM. And yet in total ignorance of what's really happening in the world, you conclude that all farmers do is follow a lie, and you are the smart cookie to bring us the truth. You won't even acknowledge a truth when it's handed to you on your computer screen, because it doesn't fit with your own theories on tb testing methods and 'non-existent mode of transmission'.
rubbish. It's got us a long way in New Zealand, that is why it's easier to ignore and make stupidly insensitive remarks and obfuscate. Moon landings. Nuclear fallout. Part of history, just a convenient part.

Pete, when you look back at TB control in NZ over the last 50 years and see where we were to where we are now, then compare that to where the UK was say over the last 30 years to the problems they have now, you just have to ask "How the f@#% did that happen???" , well the answer to that would be "People like Mr Wantling." Its all very well for people to espouse their opinion , but it needs to be vaguely in the realms of reality.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Storeman, I repeat, it's your healthy cows that are being slaughtered, and its you who defend the thinking that supports that. There is a saying, you get what you deserve. Have a good laugh when your precious cows are off to the knackers yard. I was once talking to a woman. I was telling her how you farmers slaughter your healthy cows. She couldn't believe it! I said, that is exactly what they do, its called good old-fashioned science. Of course, based on theory, not fact. Don't forget, you still have no mode of transmission, still assumed, never found. I suggest you contact Professor Woodroffe and beg her to tell you when she has eventually found it, but of course, you will have a long long wait. I fear that she will never find it. In fact, I know that she will never find it, unless of course, through a theory, not a fact. These theoreticians, they are wonderful people, they can conjure up anything and we all follow like lost sheep. Self destruction guaranteed. So the next time a farmer sees his precious cows being slaughtered on the basis of a fraudulent 'skin test', and that farmer is on the verge of suicide, you ask him out, have a good laugh about it all. That's the way to do it. John Wantling, Rochdale

Probably your best bit of fiction yet!. If you have a false negative, it will get picked up with works monitoring, as a part of the vet inspection that we pay $21.50 per head, now a false positive one would expect every animal slaughtered would have a vet inspection too to confirm that it is positive, now any one with half a brain would expect if on the rare occasion if any false positives were coming through that the slaughter process would stop very b@#%&* quickly!!! Can't say I've ever heard of it happening here.
You still don't think your arguement is buggered , John?

 

[Storeman]

Storeman, I suggest two things, first of all, grow up; secondly, for the members of this group to cease calling me names, and to put your money where your mouth is. Pick up the phone, call Professor Krebs, tell him that you have found the mode of transmission, and then an executive taxi will drive you to London for your appointment with the Queen of England. Once you have proved that you have found this illusive mode of transmission that no human being has ever found, I can pack up and go home. This is all that you need to do. Sadly, every time I have raised this issue, an issue that can make you a millionaire, an overnight sensation, the whole groups goes silent. No response, no phone call to Professor Krebs, no appointment with the Queen. The only thing that you can do is call me more names. You do not understand anything about propaganda, you do not understand anything about the conditioned response. These are concrete facts, and as I repeat, when you support a theoretical science that does not translate into fact, then you are in deep water. This means you are so easily led, easy to manipulate. The fact that you defend the 'science' that is systematically destroying you, is a prime example of the situation. Self destruction is the end product. Instead of understanding that, you close your eyes and then more name calling. Pick up that phone and prove that you have this mode of transmission. But you know that you dont have the guts to do that simply because you have not got it, and will never ever find it, apart from in theory. John Wantling, Rochdale

You also now seem to have an obsession with the Queen of England.
It's understandable, she has been, and continues to be a splendid Monarch for this green and pleasant land.

I suggest two things. Firstly, go and study some basic science, once you have the grasp of that, you will see how silly your ramblings are, secondly, call this number 01706 676100. There are some very nice people on the end of the phone that can help you with your, very apparent, problems. Don't be afraid, the Rochdale mental health crisis team are there to help you. Go on, give them a call, it will change your life for the better.

Edit: Just to add, maybe take some English lessons, along with the basic science. You seem to have a grasp of words, but when you put them into a sentence, you end up with a rambling mess that is just nonsense. So, a bit of science, some English lessons and give that number a call, it will really change your life.

 

[llamedos]

I never like to lock a thread, but I think this one has run its course now, and is resulting in reports of insulting posts from both sides.

Mr Wantling, Thank you for your contribution thus far, but it really has gone to far for to long.

While we all appreciate freedom of speech, along with this comes responsibility for what you post, I have no wish to see anyone ridiculed or bullied, and now think it is time to call a halt to the thread.

Topic locked.