Insane MF dealer workshop prices.

[Pennine Ploughing]

not a chance, £15 if he is lucky.

£15 will be the normal rate, I know one man that works for a dealer, JCB, and he is on £18.50 but that will be getting near the top end
They have to pay a decent rate to keep them, what's the point in training them to leave and go elsewhere

Biggest problem is most not all dealers, need there fitters to book out whatever hours to a job, so if doing a 10 hour day, the fitter is expected to book them hours to job/jobs for that day, and the clock starts when given the job card, till its handed back, this includes looking something up on PC, or standing waiting at parts counter for bits etc

 

[jorgenbg]

£15 will be the normal rate, I know one man that works for a dealer, JCB, and he is on £18.50 but that will be getting near the top end
They have to pay a decent rate to keep them, what's the point in training them to leave and go elsewhere

Biggest problem is most not all dealers, need there fitters to book out whatever hours to a job, so if doing a 10 hour day, the fitter is expected to book them hours to job/jobs for that day, and the clock starts when given the job card, till its handed back, this includes looking something up on PC, or standing waiting at parts counter for bits etc

I think that might the problem. They had time to do my tractor within two days. Thats not normal.

 

[jorgenbg]

if its one of the inner slices all the steel pipes off the other spool to get to the inner spool then everything back on not a quick job maybe not 8 hours but could quite easily be that . not just taking the electric bit off the back of the spool swopping all of it

I dont think thats the case. There is one small pipe on the side of a lid on the outer spool valve. Looks like its just to remove this lid and slide the spools to the side. I dont know, but oil looks to be coming from the center within the main housing of the back end.

 

[Greythundercloudys]

Far better getn a good one man band, far less per hr for a start. And happy to get the work.

 

[betweenthelines]

OH doesn't know what the job involves but thinks the bill is excessive?

As in "Don't know what they did, but the overcharged"

FFS!

Never thought of asking for an estimate beforehand?

 

[quavers]

jorgenbg looking at your handle your in norway , what is the hourly rate for a tractor and man , i understand that norway is a lot more expensive than the uk

 

[MF-ANDY]

how much does other dealer garages charge per hour ?

£126 to do a first inspection on a transit custom. That's an inspection, no work done, although I did get a nice video to watch[emoji30]

 

[Grandad Pig]

Things might have changed, it’s been 25 years, but when I worked for a main dealership jobs were defined by the hours stated by the manufacturer. For example, front wheel bearings on a Ford 4000 were, say, 4 hours and as a mechanic that’s how long we had to complete the job. This was set by the manufacturer not the main dealer. Every job had a “time” allocated to it in a book. If it took longer we had to explain why, if it took less, well, it never took less. I remember we charged £25 per hour plus parts plus vat. On out of warranty older machines we had to give the service manager an estimate, and were expected to stick to it.

Looking at modern machines I would not know where to start but I get the impression many workshop staff are “fitters” rather than “engineers” and mainly replace components, as per a software readout. We were expected to repair rather than replace where possible. As I said, a long time ago.

 

[Deutzdx3]

They’ll bill you at book time, it’ll say in their job manual a time to replace that spool. If it took 3-4 hours but book time is 8, sure as sure you’ll be billed book time. Complain and you’ll maybe get some money off.

 

[jorgenbg]

OH doesn't know what the job involves but thinks the bill is excessive?

As in "Don't know what they did, but the overcharged"

FFS!

Never thought of asking for an estimate beforehand?

I had the same job done two years ago, so ease off a little.

 

[jorgenbg]

jorgenbg looking at your handle your in norway , what is the hourly rate for a tractor and man , i understand that norway is a lot more expensive than the uk

Hi

Our currency took a nose dive when the oil went south a few weeks ago. GPB NOK has been around 11 for a long time. Right now its 12,7.
Anyhow, I got the fresh yearly survey in front of me.

Hourly rate man with tractor:

Below 100hp = 600 NOK = 47 Punds
100 - 150hp = 675 NOK = 53 Punds
150 - 200hp = 715 NOK = 56 Punds
Aboe 200hp = 800 NOK = 63 Punds

Anything else?

As said. NOK is historically low now. Norway has peaked and heading south im afraid.

 

[4440]

Had a main dealer fix a problem on the top of the gearbox on a Fastrac .
I was told they would need to remove the floor to get to the part.
Got the bill, it list the work done, Including the removal of one back wheel.
I ask the dealer why they had removed the wheel, but could not give a satisfactory answer.
They did knock some money off the bill

 

[quavers]

Hi

Our currency took a nose dive when the oil went south a few weeks ago. GPB NOK has been around 11 for a long time. Right now its 12,7.
Anyhow, I got the fresh yearly survey in front of me.

Hourly rate man with tractor:

Below 100hp = 600 NOK = 47 Punds
100 - 150hp = 675 NOK = 53 Punds
150 - 200hp = 715 NOK = 56 Punds
Aboe 200hp = 800 NOK = 63 Punds

Anything else?

As said. NOK is historically low now. Norway has peaked and heading south im afraid.

we are all in for a hard time in the future , not just norway

 

[kiwi pom]

100 quid an hour is extortion. Guaranteed the mechanic wont be gettin near that not even near half that. How can they justify that.

No he wont but if you add up all of the costs that have to be 'earned' by the mechanic, its not hard to get to a large number.
Sit down and work it out, you might get a shock.
Whether the mechanic gets enough work done per hour for the customer is another matter.
I don't know if they have a book time they charge on a job or actual hours, each place is probably different.

 

[kiwi pom]

Far better getn a good one man band, far less per hr for a start. And happy to get the work.

One man bands can be very good if you find a good one. Some are limited at what they can do though, when it comes to the more complicated kit the longer they are out of the manufacturer training loop the further behind they get. Then there's the problem of all the computer software needed these days.
You really shouldn't judge them on the hourly rate, the best ones should be high.
The very best ones tend to have a lot of work too so some jobs take them a while to get to.

 

[michael N123]

£15 will be the normal rate, I know one man that works for a dealer, JCB, and he is on £18.50 but that will be getting near the top end
They have to pay a decent rate to keep them, what's the point in training them to leave and go elsewhere

Biggest problem is most not all dealers, need there fitters to book out whatever hours to a job, so if doing a 10 hour day, the fitter is expected to book them hours to job/jobs for that day, and the clock starts when given the job card, till its handed back, this includes looking something up on PC, or standing waiting at parts counter for bits etc

And a lot of these young lads have to buy there own tools to

 

[Courier]

...For example, front wheel bearings on a Ford 4000 were, say, 4 hours and as a mechanic that’s how long we had to complete the job. This was set by the manufacturer not the main dealer. Every job had a “time” allocated to it in a book. If it took longer we had to explain why, if it took less, well, it never

Looking at modern machines I would not know where to start but I get the impression many workshop staff are “fitters” rather than “engineers” and mainly replace components, as per a software readout. We were expected to repair rather than replace where possible. As I said, a long time ago.

Ag. engineers used to reference to “car mechanics” as “rag hands” ‘cos they were usually walking around with - - well !

The habit seems to have spread to Tractor dealers workshops !

 

[James]

BTW. Its a 2016 7718 with 1000 hours on the clock. Dyna6. Had it on the dyno today. It shows 158 hp on the pto.

Hp figure seems very low

 

[Deranged peasant]

Try buying a pint in Norway
Nothing cheap

 

[jorgenbg]

Try buying a pint in Norway
Nothing cheap

Try buying one in London