Irish farmers are protesting at meat factories about the whole system of the way they have kept dropping the prices paid to farmers . Farmers now have 12 plants closed and will shut the whole industry down until prices rise , U.K. Farmers need to do the same . Otherwise the factories will have beef farmers gone broke.
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Irish beef price protest
- Thread starter james ds
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Don't shoot me down, but Irish beef farmers need to adapt to what the processor/customer wants, we in the UK now have to produce a carcass that is under 400kg or less and preferably under 30m to achieve full p/kg, and with young bulls definitely a no no for over 16m. Yes weight used to pay and get most farmers out of trouble for paying too much for stores, but not anymore, the profit is in buying the cattle and if there too dear to walk away. At least you fellas over there have had decent grant money to sort out slurry systems, why not start milking some cows with a robot?
Ps l have put my tin hat on and no offence meant, l have relations farming over there
Ps l have put my tin hat on and no offence meant, l have relations farming over there
talk like that to much and there may be no cattle to walk away from apart from dairy cross but if that's what you want fill your boots
- Location
- Bedfordshire
I've never been into a supermarket and been asked what size of joint I want to buy, nor has anyone I know.
Northeastfarmer
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- Location
- Cleveland
If they want a carcass under 400 kilos they need to start paying some very good bonus on it....the only reason they want small carcasses is so they pay you small money
how many buyers for beef cattle do you chaps have over there ? do you still have a working livestock market system for fat cattle ?
Northeastfarmer
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- Location
- Cleveland
The only reason the beef job is finished now is because abp own virtually everything...they are going to make everyone bust you can guarantee that
do they get a better meat yield % from a small carcass ?
Northeastfarmer
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- Location
- Cleveland
do they really own everything ? if they do then shouldn't it be a case for monopolies ?
well if they want the same amount of meat to sell they have to buy more small carcases
Its all a con to force cattle out to slaughter , if there were no penalties for weight or age we would hang onto them when prices were poor and take some power back. Prices must have been high when we allowed these rules to be placed on us or we were asleep on the job. We should really be protesting over here because it could just be the turning point in history for beef industry cartel
Stw88
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- Location
- Northumberland
If everyone started being price setters instead of price takers the job would soon alter. You cant go to tesco and say al only give you £5 for this joint instead of £8 can you. They wouldnt want the plants empty with all that staff to pay. If the price quoted isnt good enough tell them no not this week. Any farmer that does send them wants bad mouthed. Untill we stand together were always going to get walked over.
The average carcass weight has dropped as the big 4 yr old steers are history. The average is well under 400 kg now, a big problem is the 30 mt rule , brought in because of bse but used now to force out stock , all the spring born beef are hitting 30 mts now and have to go at any price . There is a big swing to dairy farming and it will continue , but the small suckler farmer who farms partime can't go milking.
No they want the smaller carcass to have smaller steak cuts to suit the housewife . Huge big steaks are hard sold.
It would be huge if you could start protesting as Abp control the whole Irish and uk beef system , he's forcing us to take less money all the time . It's got very hot hear the last week with the big factories getting court injunctions against protesters and threatening to jail farmers , this has just pee'd farmers off more and swelled the numbers protesting . If we don't all stand up now we will go out of business , farmers are only getting 20% of the retail price of beef , 5 years ago we got 40%. It's time to change , if any of you are strong farm organisation men could you start helping to get protest going . We're walked on for long enough , it's time to stand up.
Strip loin and T bone steaks don't work that way.
- Location
- Shropshire
Yes, I don’t understand people’s argument on this. When max carcass dropped from 450 to 420/400 (depending on slaughterhouse) the abattoirs we’re having 30-50kg less meat per beast or to put it in perspective, for every 8 beasts they bought before, they now have to buy 9 to yield the same amount of meat!
Obviously it doesn’t suit all of us, and on my suckled bulls, I would rather have the heavy weights, but on my blue cross dairy stores 400kg is heavy enough
By the way, please don’t take this to mean that the beef job is any good, because it’s not, I’m just interpreting the results of the carcass weight drop in isolation.
the price gap between ni and the rest of Britain has always been an issue, and quite a bit if lrish beef heads the same way so saimilair effect.
is our price being held back by the amount of diary bred beef in the system?
after all we here is average price the farmer gets from carcase since the southern protest started, but they fail to carify how much per style? of carcase-holstien or continental, after all there is a premium for aa Hereford and shorthorn.
I have never seen 'E' or 'O' grade beef for sale, and I thought the via grading machine were able to value carcase on saleable yield, so why are we still paid for a grade that means nothing y a machine that can value a the sale yield of the carcase, surely we should be paid via its value, be a more open system, possibly too fair?
about the big cuts, I did a short course on organic and it was attented by a butcher, the house wife doesn't want a big steak and cut n half it doesn't have the same saleable appeal, also smaller cuts cost less and price rises are easier hid the end costumer, he didn't say the last bit.
is our price being held back by the amount of diary bred beef in the system?
after all we here is average price the farmer gets from carcase since the southern protest started, but they fail to carify how much per style? of carcase-holstien or continental, after all there is a premium for aa Hereford and shorthorn.
I have never seen 'E' or 'O' grade beef for sale, and I thought the via grading machine were able to value carcase on saleable yield, so why are we still paid for a grade that means nothing y a machine that can value a the sale yield of the carcase, surely we should be paid via its value, be a more open system, possibly too fair?
about the big cuts, I did a short course on organic and it was attented by a butcher, the house wife doesn't want a big steak and cut n half it doesn't have the same saleable appeal, also smaller cuts cost less and price rises are easier hid the end costumer, he didn't say the last bit.