Is anyone genuinely no tilling OSR consistently successfully?

HarryB97

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Mixed Farmer
Had our best ever OSR last year that was drilled by our contractor with a Horsch Sprinter and 1 or 2 inch dutch openers with liquid fert applied
 

jimcooke770

Member
We drilled our OSR straight into baled spring barley stubble with our Amazone Cayena last year.
1.8 t /acre over 130 acres. Delivered weights.
This year into baled wheat stubble and thick chopped barley straw. Just coming through . 150 kg DAP " down spout "
Can post pictures if anyone interested
 

Fish

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Location
North yorkshire
Yes, last year's effort in two different fields, one light, one heavy, both drilled with the jd
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Clive

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NFFN Member
Location
Lichfield
I know plenty of clayon and strip tillers are doing it fine. Anyone regularly successfully doing no till disc drilling or v low disturbance tine drilling for OSR?

Yes - not had a failure under no till and yiejds are better on osr than they were when we mi tilled

Mostly tine though, never was so keen on the 750a for osr, rue cleaners helped it though a lot imo -

this year all done with disc drill for speed but placing calcifert and DAP which I think will help and straw has been baled pre osr
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Yes - not had a failure under no till and yiejds are better on osr than they were when we mi tilled

Mostly tine though, never was so keen on the 750a for osr, rue cleaners helped it though a lot imo -

this year all done with disc drill for speed but placing calcifert and DAP which I think will help and straw has been baled pre osr
Whats the purpose of applying calcifert when drilling? What rate are you applying it?

Do you have very low ph soil?
 

Clive

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NFFN Member
Location
Lichfield
Whats the purpose of applying calcifert when drilling? What rate are you applying it?

Do you have very low ph soil?

Its' a bit of a trial so trying various rates from 25kgs - 150kgs

Our ph's are ok generally (6-6.7) but the idea is that OSR like higher Ph plus breakdown of plant material can create temporary acid conditions though the winter

Calcium is also not just a Ph correction tool - after N / S I believe its the next most important plant nutrient as well

I tried something similar in the past with the 750a and it was promising but without multiple drill hoppers not very practical . The different rates and some untreated controls should be interesting
 
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DrWazzock

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
If we baled the straw, we always direct drilled with the Moore Unidrill (disc drill) with good results on light land, not quite so good on heavy land, but quite acceptable when compared to the alternatives.

A disc drill running shallow in chopped straw would be a non starter IMO, but I would be pleased if somebody could prove otherwise.
 

Wheatonrotty

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Mixed Farmer
Location
MK43
Put ours in with the co6 for the last 10 yrs or so, firstly with duets but the last few years with metcalfes. Normally into chopped straw but made the mistake last year of baling all the straw. This let what little moisture we had evaporate and combined with flea beetle we lost the lot. Neighbours that we drilled into chopped straw made a crop.
 

Clive

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NFFN Member
Location
Lichfield
If we baled the straw, we always direct drilled with the Moore Unidrill (disc drill) with good results on light land, not quite so good on heavy land, but quite acceptable when compared to the alternatives.

A disc drill running shallow in chopped straw would be a non starter IMO, but I would be pleased if somebody could prove otherwise.

It can work in chopped straw but I think row cleaners are a must for constancy in such a situation, without them if you have a disc drill then straw is best removed ahead of OSR in my experience

with a tine drill it doesn't' matter as the tine works like a row cleaner
 

Louis Mc

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Location
Meath, Ireland
Been getting okay results from no-till rape over last 4 years. This years was excellent. Last year we Claydoned some and there was very little difference although it was all disappointing. Hope to drill this years crop with the 750A in the next day or two
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
YES

I mean genuine zero - till, full stubble retention, low disturbance disc planters

common practice here

generally, we would be planting into standing straw ( no one bales straw here - apart from this year when desperate for any $$$ - far too valuable as groundcover ) , most likely wheat.
On row spacings of 250mm or more ( very common ) , probably even be planting between the previous rows

but, here is a pic of a few years ago, planting canola into a mat of oat straw, from a grazing crop the year before
2 kg / ha seed, crop yielded 3 t / ha

EDIT - this is on deep, heavy, black basaltic clays

No photo description available.
 
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I asked because I've kind of lost my mojo with no till rape lately.

I do it after barley and can't seem to find the right system although some years no till with the 750 has worked well others its not.

Rain doesn't help, herbicide residue doesn't help. Its not expensive to do a light disc or a little soil movement before but I just want to reach the holy grail!! I have seen an aitchison drilled crop of forage rape in the locality DD and it looked brilliant so perhaps should try it
 

Will7

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BASE UK Member
Drilling osr with a seedhawk. This is the second year, so can’t draw too many conclusions but it was down on yield compared to subcast establishment round here. But I spent less on it so financially I guess there is not a lot in it. I would have gone back to the subcast this year except the blackgrass control behind the seedhawk was exceptional, so I can live with a lower yield.
 

B'o'B

Member
NFFN Member
Location
Rutland
We had good results with our Dale drill with Seedhawk tines consistently up until CSFB issues halved yields this year. Ive decided to take a year off from rape this year and see how others fair with the high CSFB pressure.
 

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