Good luckIt is significant for the reason I gave. If they wanted it to fail they wouldn't keep flailing about changing it. We need to keep helping them, until they get it right.
Good luckIt is significant for the reason I gave. If they wanted it to fail they wouldn't keep flailing about changing it. We need to keep helping them, until they get it right.
Good luck
But i did bother and i dont think they care... time to focus on things that could work..
You joking? They’d be offered counselling and be off work for weeks on full pay.Not sure Delilah why they would want to. Most pages there is a post or more that is somewhat (totally) derogatory about DEFRA, its staff, its attitude or a combination of the three. I suspect that if any DEFRA staff other than such a senior position as Janet Hughes read those posts and were upset their Union (Unite) would say do not read such upsetting tosh. And that young man is possibly nearer the truth than it sounds!
I knew boris had lost the plot when he was dithering on about a high wage economy, and georgie boy has realised that with all his self respect gone he's now cruising to a nice pension and a peerage if he doesn't rock the boat. Sadly lacking to put it mildly. I genuinley feel sorry for the civil servants trying to navigate us through this shambles.One does have to despair listening to George Eustice at Groundswell or Boris PM on the radio yesterday.....
They have evidently been on some sort of indoctrination course and keep repeating to themselves...”when in a hole keep digging.”
You joking? They’d be offered counselling and be off work for weeks on full pay.
Do they not like facts/knowledge/honest opinion?Thats what I was implying - but so pleased you came out with it straight. I was a civil servant in MAFF decades ago and my wife recently retired from local government - certainly at her local government place some of the stuff written on here would have had the HR department tell staff to refuse to engage and read these boards. Hey ho.
They can't handle the truth.Do they not like facts/knowledge/honest opinion?
We needed you at Groundswell on a panel discussion with George Eustace and Janet Hughes.......From what I have read Janet is quite comfortable with the straight talking and wouldn't want folks to hold back. I would guess, however, that she would find the process more useful if there was more by way of what it needs to look like to work for folks businesses rather than incessant bellyaching.
....in place of Batters or lined up against her tooWe needed you at Groundswell on a panel discussion with George Eustace and Janet Hughes.......
We needed you at Groundswell on a panel discussion with George Eustace and Janet Hughes.......
That’s because they recruit based on standard skills (ability to write reports, public speak) with a view to teaching the farming/health/education/pensions bit once those people are in the job.Possibly the most interesting result of my me attending Groundswell this year was the 3 lecturers who approached me after the Dimbleby panel discussion asking whether I'd return to Harper to talk to their students on the new "Sustainable agriculture" degree.
Janet came from other departments and was promoted into DEFRA... that is why she has a broader view than those who are full time DEFRA and realises that Treasury actually decide on ELM's not DEFRAThat’s because they recruit based on standard skills (ability to write reports, public speak) with a view to teaching the farming/health/education/pensions bit once those people are in the job.
Also, the way promotion works is baffling. It’s done in grades, so say you are a grade 6 in the transport department, you do a standard interview process to grade 5. Then ANY department looking for a grade 5 bids for you. Therefore, that person with no history of Agriculture could end up in charge of ELMS.
same way if Janet was to get a promotion, she could end up in the department for work and pensions, or education.
It breeds a lack of continuity, job ownership and accountability.
Then we wonder why it doesn’t work
oh, well, that’s alright then, clearly they know what they are doing!Janet came from other departments and was promoted into DEFRA... that is why she has a broader view than those who are full time DEFRA and realises that Treasury actually decide on ELM's not DEFRA
And her openness has been a breath of fresh air in a very stuffy policy atmosphere.Janet came from other departments and was promoted into DEFRA... that is why she has a broader view than those who are full time DEFRA and realises that Treasury actually decide on ELM's not DEFRA