with respect..what have I said that would hamper my future Employment?
Job interview
- Thread starter cowsmart
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d williams
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Not sure if I'd want the job if that's the way he's treated you this far
Totally wrong to disrespect someone's confidence sounds a right pr*ck also very narrow minded current employer if he's going to react the way you think he may he should approach you and see if there's anything he could do to keep you hopefully you'd give notice properly
TheTallGuy
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- Location
- Cambridgeshire
Actually that's not true - it's just that anything that you put could be held as libelous/slanderous if you are unable to prove it. Any reference given must be honest and accurate.
borderterribles
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- Location
- South Shropshire
If contacted, one does not have to give a reference. If as a former employer you feel unable to give a good reference, then decline to give one at all. Prospective employers may however read plenty into the fact that you have declined to give one.
CharcoalWally
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- Location
- West of Scotland
I would agree that human nature would immediately suspect a refused reference, and that could read badly to the interviewees chances. And that in itself could be unfair to a perfectly innocent party.
- Location
- Cumbria
Undermining your request for confidentiality was unfair. It is not unreasonable to ask a prospective employer not to contact your current employer, this can/will only cause ill-feeling.
However, if you fit the bill and an offer of employment is made, this offer could be subject to a reference from your current employer.
It is also very bad practice to give an employee a good reference ' to get rid of them '
Sometimes it is very clear why Farmers find it difficult to work together
However, if you fit the bill and an offer of employment is made, this offer could be subject to a reference from your current employer.
It is also very bad practice to give an employee a good reference ' to get rid of them '
Sometimes it is very clear why Farmers find it difficult to work together
Unfair?....could leave me joblessUndermining your request for confidentiality was unfair. It is not unreasonable to ask a prospective employer not to contact your current employer, this can/will only cause ill-feeling.
However, if you fit the bill and an offer of employment is made, this offer could be subject to a reference from your current employer.
It is also very bad practice to give an employee a good reference ' to get rid of them '
Sometimes it is very clear why Farmers find it difficult to work together
betweenthelines
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- Location
- southwest
CS with respect, some of the posts you've put on TFF are less than complimentary to your current employer. anyone interviewing you might not fancy being "slagged off" if they took you on
tough sh!t lol.....be nice
borderterribles
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- Location
- South Shropshire
Quite. I would expect that a job applicant would have considered the matter of references before an interview though. Both in arranging with referees that they may be contacted, and being ready with an answer as to why someone isn't being given as a referee.
That said, I think it is downright disgraceful that a prospective employer would contact someone when they have been expressly asked not to at this stage. Surely the correct procedure would be to make a job offer ( or not) subject to satisfactory references being forthcoming?
ollie989898
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You could earn far more than that as a dairy man in this part of the world. Put your own advert in farmers weekly or something, phone will be ringing off the hook. World is your Oyster.
- Location
- Cumbria
It is not the responsibility of the applicant to offer references, it is the responsibility of the employer to ask. All Companies/Employers should have a application form that sets the criteria for the applicant such as qualifications and employment history (you can download from the internet). This is to ensure fairness and equality. Once an applicant apply''s, and he/she feels references would be beneficial to there application and have not been asked for, then it is normal to highlight ' References available on request '
Employment on many farms is very casual and unprofessional, as highlighted by this thread.
holywell farmer
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- Location
- holywell, north wales
Be careful on the internetIt is the fact you are actually posting here, that is all.
I mean you no offence, I just do not think some realise just how quick or how far a post on here goes.
I know how you feel cowsmart and I sympathise, I too was talking to a guy who wanted me to work for him, he’d spoke to a few people who had giving him glowing references about me and we met for an informal meeting (he came to me). I was still considering the position and kept bumping into people at my current employment telling me what a good step I was taking and I hadn’t even agreed anything. Well I think the cat was out the bag so I thought I had to make my move it sounded like a great opportunity so I tendered my resignation even though I’m sure they knew anyway. They stitched me up over my remaining annual leave though which was a few weeks worth . But after a year I realised the grass wasn’t greener after all because it was fertilised with bull manure.
It’s a horrible situation to be in, done over by a possible future employer who can’t respect your right to confidentiality and now looking like a possible traitor to your current employer. I sincerely hope whatever path you choose things work out for you.
Why can’t life ever be simple????
It’s a horrible situation to be in, done over by a possible future employer who can’t respect your right to confidentiality and now looking like a possible traitor to your current employer. I sincerely hope whatever path you choose things work out for you.
Why can’t life ever be simple????
It should be illegal to source a backdoor reference....
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Really? So references should only ever be taken from the selective few that the interviewee thinks will say something glowing? If the reference given is somebody not known to the interviewer, what's to stop the candidate giving his best mate's number (which I know has been done plenty of times).
When we've been looking to employ anyone, I want to ask as many people as possible. Someone specifically saying 'don't ask so and so' would certainly set alarm bells ringing with me. Alarm bells in an interviewer isn't a good thing.
There is a code of conduct on this and that is. If the employer feels that they are seriously considering making an offer then they offer subject to references being positive. At that point the candidate is contacted and asked to provide either a written reference or permission is sought to contact references directly. If the employer wants to contact a current employer who is not named as a reference then they ask the candidates permission as it can effect their relationship with their boss. If the candidate refuses permission for no acceptable reason then it is a judgement call on the part of the prospective employer weather or not to offer.
If a recruiter was to approach a current employer without the candidates permission then they would be in legal hot water and would almost certainly loose their job at the agency
If a recruiter was to approach a current employer without the candidates permission then they would be in legal hot water and would almost certainly loose their job at the agency