Job interview

[Brisel]

went something like this.....

Farmer...'Did you work for Smiths at some point'
Me 'Yes but please don't contact them for a reference as they are friendly with my current employer and I can do without the hassle of him finding out..please use our vets Mr Jones as a referee'
Farmer 'understandable'

Imagine my surprise when last night I received a message from Smiths...'Did you get that Job at broadbank? My dad said they were on the phone'.....

Once again the honesty and integrity of Dairy farmers shines through........


note all names have been changed and I am not griping at all dairy farmers..just a select few....

Had it occurred to you that your interviewer might be friendly with the Smiths? Of course they will will ask them for a reference on the quiet. Or were the Smiths one of the ones you left in a hurry from too?

We live in a very small world - TFF and a username is no guarantee of anonymity either.

I hope that one day you find a good employer who earns your trust and respect, and that you earn theirs too. Only you can break out of this negative cycle.

 

[thesilentone]

Of course they will will ask them for a reference on the quiet.

Well they have no right to, no wonder we are an Industry that lacks trust.

 

[Brisel]

The same trust that an employee has who spouts off in public?

 

[ollandroverman]

Well they have no right to, no wonder we are an Industry that lacks trust.

Lacks trust?
We are in essence a small cottage industry. Not big business or international conglomerates.
We are friends with our neighbours and socialise with others in our line of work.
This isn't hiring and firing within the highly regulated banking industry.

 

[ollie989898]

I have always believed that the very first thing you need is absolute loyalty to your employer and have always tried to live by that. Of course in any business or industry there are employee moans about something or another, believe me, having worked for my own father I could appreciate that you would never get everyone 100% happy all of the time but he did learn me something useful in my time, that work needs to be at least 50% fun.

A simple test of your team is this, if something terrible was to happen, unexpectedly, could you ring every member of staff at 11pm at night and tell them they all needed to come to work as fast as physically possible, and work for several hours doing whatever they could?

My old man had reason to do this once. In fact a senior departmental head did it, every man jack was on premises and in uniform in minutes.

 

[Bloders]

A simple test of your team is this, if something terrible was to happen, unexpectedly, could you ring every member of staff at 11pm at night and tell them they all needed to come to work as fast as physically possible, and work for several hours doing whatever they could?.

I have recently changed employer and I believe (could be wrong) that the team I am in now, that is the case.
I realise how very fortunate I am, which drives me to deliver more, so its win win

 

[Doc]

@cowsmart. You sound like someone who loves their job and is comitted to it and the industry but doesn’t like your employer.
Fair enough- I know the dairy industry and understand the relentless hours it involves.
Move on, but be frank with your goals/aspirations and lay out your stall to future employers. A committed herdsman is a rare thing these days ime.
I find it always best to let my employees know exactly what they are signing up for and what we expect, similarly I hope they would either agree to the deal/contract, including detailed job description, or not.
If it’s not for them, grand, no hard feelings, nothing said.
It’s always best to know where everyone stands from the outset.
Job descriptions and terms of employment ensure this. Define the role, review it at least annually at a formal appraisal.
We always offer jobs on strength of interview rather than from rumour/chat, nice to see a CV but we employ the person not the paper.
If we have been let down ( rare event, maybe twice in 20 years) we simply don’t provide a reference, that speaks louder than anything else imo.
Goodwill between both parties as Ollie says, is invaluable in this sort of job due to the unpredictability of it. Once that is eroded, it is almost impossible to retrieve as the mutual confidence is lost. In our business we try hard for those that try hard for us and reward appropriately.
Disaffected employees are counter productive and can upset the others as well as the dynamic of the whole business.