APJ
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- West Midlands(Shropshire borders)
Anyone seen one in action like the idea of split hopper seed and fert also a range of drilling widths is this better than the claydon/muzri/sumo dts all ideas greatly received!
John dale eco 3
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Had a 6m on demo, very impressed with establishment, draft was good, seed placement brilliant, it was huge to use but very easy, I believe dales are very pleasant and helpful to deal with. I had a Mzuri, currently running a horsch on dts legs which does a good job. I tried the dale because of its versatility for all seed beds... If you want a true direct drill and can manage compaction then I would highly recommend you try one. Mzuri theory is good but we struggled in practice for various reasons... Mzuri 180 hp/3m @8kph, dale 150hp/6m @10kph
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- Shropshire
@Lord Peasemore have you got any photos of your horsch/dts drill?
Am I right in thinking there is no leading tine on these drills, hence the easier pulling? Kind of similar to a Weaving Sabre Tine? No doubt fine drills, I just like the idea of the leading tine to loosen the ground and tilth up the stubble a little bit (and create a supposed drainage channel) as I wonder if sufficient penetration can be achieved with only the seeding tine, but I might be completely out to lunch about that.
EDIT - I just had a look at a close up photo and I was wrong about the absence of a leading tine. Looks a great drill to me.
EDIT - I just had a look at a close up photo and I was wrong about the absence of a leading tine. Looks a great drill to me.
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but I can easily take some, I'll get the camera out when I am next doing covers this week. Regards George
Devon James
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- Devon
How long have these drills been out for?
You're right over no leading tine, the dale is a true 'direct drill' as the only disturbance is purely for the seed to sit in, it's got plenty of draft, I ran it along a very compacted headland on one farm and it still put the seed in. It's a chicken/egg situation really. True dd should build the soil so it would effectively take out compaction, strip till is really one pass subsoil drilling so less need for careful soil management... Depends how much conservationist there is in you really! The sole reason I've not bought a dale yet is that I have one customer who doesn't like the 'look' of dd. The horsch leaves a lightly min tilled look, dale leaves stubble
- Location
- Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
- Location
- Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
This a pic from the trailed eco drill - but same principle, shows the tine alignment better.
http://www.cerealsevent.co.uk/page.cfm/action=library/libID=1/libEntryID=380/listID=2
Looks like they are trying an option of a deeper tine. Great idea in principle, but could put some interesting stress on the Coulter units.
Looks like they are trying an option of a deeper tine. Great idea in principle, but could put some interesting stress on the Coulter units.
APJ
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- West Midlands(Shropshire borders)
It really does look an interesting option with a realistic price on it, with the option of true direct drilling or in mintill! Does anyone know if there are available for this autumn think a call might be in order!
warksfarmer
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Gregory Mac
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- Wynyard, Tasmania
Just had a 6 mtr. machine built locally as Bourgault only bring 40 ft. machines into Australia.Quite impressed so far.
Gregory Mac
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- Wynyard, Tasmania
These are 3710 Bourgault openers.
SilliamWhale
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I take my hat of to you Greg.
You're 77 years old and still contracting and buying lots of new gear.
You're 77 years old and still contracting and buying lots of new gear.
Interesting Coulter that quite a bit of that Coulter looks like its made for bougault by pillar lasers . The bougault Coulter has independant ram to get it in the ground i only showed knockie the info on that coulter last week at the tff tent.
They have a low disturbance hoe coulter or one that looks like what we have on the pillar laser that separates the seed from the fert.
They have a low disturbance hoe coulter or one that looks like what we have on the pillar laser that separates the seed from the fert.
Pedders
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- West Sussex
me too ..trialled the 6m this autumn and crops look really good
dontknowanything
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- Cambridge
Looks nice to me. Surely it's going to be a bit light for penetration though, or does the compound angle disc help this enough?
I wish they would show some detail of the actual coulter working, and what the field looks like afterwards rather than 15 versions of the drill driving past.
I wish they would show some detail of the actual coulter working, and what the field looks like afterwards rather than 15 versions of the drill driving past.