john deere too dear for farmers

[daveydiesel1]

Round this way NH offer the best deals money wise however the favourite party trick is jibbing on the warranty saying it’s down to misuse
Not wanting to slag them off as I do deal with them and they have been decent enough with me personally however it is what it is

Why would the dealer not want to do warranty work? Sure its not out of thier pocket

 

[livestock 1]

Why would the dealer not want to do warranty work? Sure its not out of thier pocket

No idea there’s loads of examples where shafts twisted like corkscrews housings broken all jibbed on as misuse when it probably is the machine design to blame
They still get the work warranty or not no idea what pays them best
Probably the lot higher above telling them to keep warranty claims down

 

[daveydiesel1]

No idea there’s loads of examples where shafts twisted like corkscrews housings broken all jibbed on as misuse when it probably is the machine design to blame
They still get the work warranty or not no idea what pays them best
Probably the lot higher above telling them to keep warranty claims down

Would it be that they bill the customer and the manufacturer aswel?

 

[livestock 1]

Would it be that they bill the customer and the manufacturer aswel?

I don’t think they would do that. Just feels like the tractors have warranty but maybe not honoured

 

[livestock 1]

Where do you draw the line with misuse
How do you tell?

 

[Drillman]

I was told today that my local JD dealership had the fitters putting Xmas decorations up as nowt else to do.

Now I know JD machines break down as we’ve just had to do a headgasket service ( which turned into a full rebuild) on a Jd engined machine so either there not selling owt or there charging too much and farmers are looking elsewhere for repair work to be done.

 

[daveydiesel1]

I don’t think they would do that. Just feels like the tractors have warranty but maybe not honoured

It certainly has happened before, a relation of mine had it happen to him and he found out, was a row to say the least

 

[MF CI]

I was told today that my local JD dealership had the fitters putting Xmas decorations up as nowt else to do.

Now I know JD machines break down as we’ve just had to do a headgasket service ( which turned into a full rebuild) on a Jd engined machine so either there not selling owt or there charging too much and farmers are looking elsewhere for repair work to be done.

For any dealer, of any colour machine to have enough mechanics in the busy summer period, they will find they have too many to keep busy on the tools in the depths of winter.

 

[Magnus Oyke]

I was told today that my local JD dealership had the fitters putting Xmas decorations up as nowt else to do.

Now I know JD machines break down as we’ve just had to do a headgasket service ( which turned into a full rebuild) on a Jd engined machine so either there not selling owt or there charging too much and farmers are looking elsewhere for repair work to be done.

It must be really boring being a mechanic at a John Deere dealership, just sitting around drinking tea, scrolling through your phone

 

[Drillman]

It must be really boring being a mechanic at a John Deere dealership, just sitting around drinking tea, scrolling through your phone

Waiting for the reps to finish playing cards and actually sell something!
Reps probably sulking after having the Disco 4s replaced with Dmax pickups as well

 

[hally]

I was told today that my local JD dealership had the fitters putting Xmas decorations up as nowt else to do.

Now I know JD machines break down as we’ve just had to do a headgasket service ( which turned into a full rebuild) on a Jd engined machine so either there not selling owt or there charging too much and farmers are looking elsewhere for repair work to be done.

They must be quiet as I had a call asking about an enquiry I made back in the summer and also offering special deals for servicing older jd/Kramer.
Out of curiosity does New Holland still charge an excess on warranty claims. A few years ago had a very pi**Ed off neighbour send his NH in for a number of small warranty repairs and a service.....and got a bill for £500 for warranty excess. Apparently every fix was a separate claim

 

[Moors Lad]

It must be really boring being a mechanic at a John Deere dealership, just sitting around drinking tea, scrolling through your phone

Not half as boring as being a Valtra mechanic.... Hope they know where the fuses are in "stores".

 

[Chae1]

Only question i will ask is why is it takin them so long

It's back now. But waiting on parts. In there defence they ordered parts on a stock order to try and save a bit.

But took much longer than 3-5 days I was told.

 

[PI Stsker]

On the contrary I’ve found that owning ‘premium’ brand machines (JD & fendt) have worked out cheaper in the long run than cheaper alternatives. It’s getting on the wheel that’s hard; the first one nearly killed me but now we have them when it comes to changing the cost to change is allot less than what it would be if I were going from an alternative to them or changing cheap for cheap..

 

[balerman]

On the contrary I’ve found that owning ‘premium’ brand machines (JD & fendt) have worked out cheaper in the long run than cheaper alternatives. It’s getting on the wheel that’s hard; the first one nearly killed me but now we have them when it comes to changing the cost to change is allot less than what it would be if I were going from an alternative to them or changing cheap for cheap..

Their marketing is still working well then….

 

[PI Stsker]

Their marketing is still working well then….

Hardly. I’m coming from real facts and figures after owning fendt, John Deere and a McCormick. You’re coming from ‘my mate said’ I presume.
What I can assure you is the first fendt and first JD I brought I did ask my self is it worth the extra, what ever colour it is it pulls the plough the same right…?

Then it came to change and I saw more than that initial investment back on the PX value so the next one I brought cost me less than it would if I was to go for the cheaper end of the scale.

I’ve done the maths time and time again, especially recently as I’m looking at changing again; and I can not ignore the fact that the cost per clock hour on the Deere and fendt is a good bit cheaper than a McCormick and other brands I’ve priced against.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Hardly. I’m coming from real facts and figures after owning fendt, John Deere and a McCormick. You’re coming from ‘my mate said’ I presume.
What I can assure you is the first fendt and first JD I brought I did ask my self is it worth the extra, what ever colour it is it pulls the plough the same right…?

Then it came to change and I saw more than that initial investment back on the PX value so the next one I brought cost me less than it would if I was to go for the cheaper end of the scale.

I’ve done the maths time and time again, especially recently as I’m looking at changing again; and I can not ignore the fact that the cost per clock hour on the Deere and fendt is a good bit cheaper than a McCormick and other brands I’ve priced against.

Any difference in fendt and deere cost of ownership?

 

[PI Stsker]

Any difference in fendt and deere cost of ownership?

Nothing really, fendt marginally more expensive but we’re talking about a quid per hour,. No fuel difference between the two, despite what the fendt fan boys will chirp on about. (I am a fendt fan mind)
I find the fendt a slightly nicer place to spend the day but the Deere is more intuitive that anyone can jump on and use it, but when they cost near enough the same to own per clock hour… it really is personal preference. I currently have a ‘new’ shape 718 and a 6155r brought brand new a year apart from each other and running along side each other so cost wise is live not 5 years ago etc

 

[colhonk]

I`m bored curious so,, Fendt, MF, Valtra...............all the same tractor are they not? so why the difference in breakdowns ect.?

 

[PI Stsker]

I`m bored curious so,, Fendt, MF, Valtra...............all the same tractor are they not? so why the difference in breakdowns ect.?

The reality is weather it’s green, red, blue or orange they all breakdown. It’s really the dealer back up that’s behind them, how short staffed they are in the workshop… the plain hard facts are over the years we’ve had blue and now on to two different shades of green, I wouldn’t have an issue going back to blue or trying orange, but for me money talks, it’s a well thought out mathematical decision. Never had a problem with ANY of the dealers, coming out to fix a breakdown warranty claims etc.
you hear some real horror stories from disgruntled people saying oh they never came out or couldn’t get there for two weeks. That’s not JD/NH/agco fault; that’s the dealer them selfs fault.