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Jones baler mk16 knotters.

Classichay

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Arable Farmer
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I don’t mind going nosing never know when a spare few other bits comes in handy knowing my luck mid baling! Some of these horsey small baling people are wanting 75p+ per bale plus travel even with the prospect of 1000 bales it’s abit greedy. And a lot are not willing to bring a sledge along either. Can anyone recommend me a decent sled breed to accompany this to work with my flat 8 grab? Not a huge budget but want something that isn’t going to end up at the scrap heap through being useless :) I’ve been told to avoid the early round tube browns.
 

Selectamatic

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Location
North Wales
You don't necessarily need a flat 8... :)

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Classichay

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Arable Farmer
Location
The moon
You do when you have to stack on your own. I’ve already the grab from a few years of idiot bricks. Much prefer round bales but I’ve found a good demand for them for my customers.
 

jd6820

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Moderator
Sounds like your heading in the right direction. If you have some stuff to bale that will help you check operation is correct for sure, once you have it tying manually.

As for a bale sledge, a cooks windrower is a great choice, I find them good for placing packs so they aren’t in the way on headlands. Also drop packs near each other. Reliable operation and seem to follow as well as any others.
 

Dry Rot

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Livestock Farmer
My flat 8 accumulator has wheels!

The biggest problem for me has been the sledge out of sight behind the baler. If there's a blockage, it goes unnoticed until it gets serious. But that may be because my tractor is too low and I can't see over the baler. I use a MF135 for the baler and 390 with the grab. I'd l;ike to do all small bales but I'm too old to handle them now.
 

Classichay

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Arable Farmer
Location
The moon
Ah I’m looking at running this with my trusty 885xl case plenty of poke. I was looking at either a browns, cooks or mieger(sp?) but with needing a new mower this year can’t spend a huge amount as the baler was a spur of the moment purchase.
 

db9go

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Arable Farmer
Location
Buckinghamshire
The roller on the knife arm you can free it off on some machines they are replacable and others they are not
Just because it is sized does not meen you have to have a new arm but it needs to be round with out any flats on it
 

Classichay

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Arable Farmer
Location
The moon
The roller on the knife arm you can free it off on some machines they are replacable and others they are not
Just because it is sized does not meen you have to have a new arm but it needs to be round with out any flats on it
I’m pretty convinced this has a flat on as it’s been run with a ceased bearing previously. Even though it has an auto oiler for all the knotter components...
 

Mursal

Member
I'd not stress to much about a sledge until you get it knotting 100% then hook the catcher on.
And in anger in a field, but worth throwing a bit of stuff through it to see how things go. But its not the same as in the field .....
Small test bit, before you cut the other 450 bales .............. (y)
 

Classichay

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Arable Farmer
Location
The moon
I'd not stress to much about a sledge until you get it knotting 100% then hook the catcher on.
And in anger in a field, but worth throwing a bit of stuff through it to see how things go. But its not the same as in the field .....
Small test bit, before you cut the other 450 bales .............. (y)
Yes that’s the plan for tomorrow if it stays dry I’ve been busy on the lathe and mill today making bronze bushes for a customer :/

Rather buy a sled while they’re cheap ;) rather than before season starts
 

Large

Member
I have one of the Jones MK16 balers, a little tip is to slacken the springs on the flywheel clutches and allow the clutches to spin for a while. Then retighten the springs. If the clutches seize it can cause a lot of damage.
 

Classichay

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Arable Farmer
Location
The moon
I have one of the Jones MK16 balers, a little tip is to slacken the springs on the flywheel clutches and allow the clutches to spin for a while. Then retighten the springs. If the clutches seize it can cause a lot of damage.
Hi, a question about your baler does it have the auto oiler on? Mines one way check valves from the distribution manifold seems to all be sticking and was considering throwing it into the bin and fitting grease nipples.

Have you had many issues with yours? I’ve run some straw through this and seems to be working ok.
 

Large

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I do have an auto oiler on the knotters. I just put in universal oil and it seems to work fine. The brake on the knotter needs to be effective and check that the ram stop is able to move freely. As others have said the stripper arm must rub the beak to strip the knot. The baler is capable of making very good bales.
 

Classichay

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
The moon
I do have an auto oiler on the knotters. I just put in universal oil and it seems to work fine. The brake on the knotter needs to be effective and check that the ram stop is able to move freely. As others have said the stripper arm must rub the beak to strip the knot. The baler is capable of making very good bales.


What do you mean by ram stop? Probably will know it but may be different,


I’ve took the knives off to be ground by Kennedy grinding in craven arms Shropshire, as I found them horrifically dull. Did notice a slight clack when it was cutting but the knives when not cutting material are quiet, and the clearance looks good.
 

Large

Member
Ram Stop. The ram stop is in the bottom of the bale chamber. It comes up when tthe knotters are tying to prevent the ram hitting the needles. needs to be able to move freely.
 

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