Just what we need another pollution incident

[Lofty1984]

Dead fish found after slurry spill turns crystal clear river brown

A resident said it was around the fifth pollution incident along the Afon Dulas since he had lived in the area

www.walesonline.co.uk

 

[jerseycowsman]

Dead fish found after slurry spill turns crystal clear river brown

A resident said it was around the fifth pollution incident along the Afon Dulas since he had lived in the area

www.walesonline.co.uk

Is it really farmers fault?
This was legalised polluting by the water companies in 2021

 

[Lofty1984]

Not saying it’s anyone’s fault we all know the water companies are huge polluters

 

[BRB John]

Is it really farmers fault?
This was legalised polluting by the water companies in 2021
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Why is the west coast so terrible compared to the east?

 

[bobdav]

Why is the west coast so terrible compared to the east?

Would be the much higher level of rainfall in the West I would have thought

 

[Lofty1984]

Why is the west coast so terrible compared to the east?

Can only go off where I am but I’d say there are more dairy’s in the west than here in the east

 

[Farmer_Joe]

Can only go of where I am but I’d say there are more dairy’s in the west than here in the east

It’s sewage works overflowing, when it rains heavy they are overwhelmed and have to let some flow in the rivers, (years of lack of investment and giving profits to shareholders) as above more rain in the west so more likely.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

It’s sewage works overflowing, when it rains heavy they are overwhelmed and have to let some flow in the rivers, (years of lack of investment and giving profits to shareholders) as above more rain in the west so more likely.

If we have to seperate slurry from clean yard/roof water, how come the water companies don't? I think the people to blame are the regulators personally. Going to cost a lot? Tough, the government don't say to Agriculture "because not polluting is expensive, we will let you carry on polluting".

 

[ollie989898]

The dumping of sewage is a symptom of privatisation. You have private companies obtain control of the infrastructure for fudge all money and now they are milking profit out of it despite the fact the infrastructure is decades out of date. The gas and energy networks are the same. They are more concerned with their shareholders dividends than anything else.

We know they let sewage go during periods of heavy rainfall and hope not to get caught.

 

[Lofty1984]

It’s sewage works overflowing, when it rains heavy they are overwhelmed and have to let some flow in the rivers, (years of lack of investment and giving profits to shareholders) as above more rain in the west so more likely.

This we all know but there are farmers doing it too, there are a minority who do spread in unsuitable conditions on unsuitable ground and you cannot deny that

 

[Vader]

The dumping of sewage is a symptom of privatisation. You have private companies obtain control of the infrastructure for fudge all money and now they are milking profit out of it despite the fact the infrastructure is decades out of date. The gas and energy networks are the same. They are more concerned with their shareholders dividends than anything else.

We know they let sewage go during periods of heavy rainfall and hope not to get caught.

Also problem of new housing putting rainwater into sewage system as cheaper and easier than soakaways.

Not in anyway defending water companies but the gov should be clamping down on this from builders.

 

[Wombat]

Surely everyone needs to clean up their act, the article says the farmer reported the incident. Just cause the water companies do it is no justification in my opinion.

 

[Lakesdigger]

Also problem of new housing putting rainwater into sewage system as cheaper and easier than soakaways.

Not in anyway defending water companies but the gov should be clamping down on this from builders.

Yes there's some cheat and sneak rainwater into sewer when nobody's looking but soakaways for rainwater is fairly new idea. There's towns and cities where they've built for over a hundred years and only have a combined system for sewer and rainwater.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

This we all know but there are farmers doing it too, there are a minority who do spread in unsuitable conditions on unsuitable ground and you cannot deny that

I won't condone bad practice.
But how often is it that this happens due to spreading according to the rules controlling spreading rather than prevailing conditions?

You can't get a derogation because spreading would be a really good idea, only if there is no other option.
A very ill-conceived philosophy.

And most major farm incidents are due to the failure of storage systems. There is a drive for more and larger storage which is means higher risk of worse incidents.

 

[Sid]

Why is the west coast so terrible compared to the east?

Holiday destinations?
We all pay in the SW for the countries sh!t in the summer!

 

[puppet]

Surely everyone needs to clean up their act, the article says the farmer reported the incident. Just cause the water companies do it is no justification in my opinion.

Correct. They phoned up and took measures to divert the slurry as much as possible. Didn't say the cause but I presume burst pipe or sluice gate failed.

 

[Lofty1984]

Correct. They phoned up and took measures to divert the slurry as much as possible. Didn't say the cause but I presume burst pipe or sluice gate failed.

And that’s what pisses me off they owned up took all measures to help reduce it but still got clobbered whereas the water company’s so sweet fa

 

[Werzle]

Farmers cant keep asking for a free pass for pollution just because water companies pollute. Everybody who causes pollution should be given a fine which is a set percentage of gross profit.

 

[Werzle]

This we all know but there are farmers doing it too, there are a minority who do spread in unsuitable conditions on unsuitable ground and you cannot deny that

The EA for all the drum banging still do not get out and about looking for pollution on farms , or getting farmers to sort it. Too many people these days are quiet happy to take home the pay from jobs like the EA but dont want the unpleasant tasks of sorting poeple out. They rather sit in the office re- tweeting guff

 

[jerseycowsman]

Farmers cant keep asking for a free pass for pollution just because water companies pollute. Everybody who causes pollution should be given a fine which is a set percentage of gross profit.

So do you regularly test your crops and soil to see if they actually need the NPK you keep chucking at them?