Kramer - Clamp work & spec

[Sheep]

I'm currently looking at upgrading a Kramer 418T for a 750/680/**55/**95T.

By upgrading I'd hope to gain and retain:
- Boom suspension
- Ability to clamp grass
- Air con (not essential)
- Ease of getting in/out.

For those that have used them, would the hydraulics and power be enough on a 750T or equivalent for silage clamp work? It wouldn't be wide enough, but a set of duals on the front should solve that if they can be powered.

and for those that have used 680T/8095T, are they as easy to get in and out of as the 50 series?

Many thanks.

 

[Manney]

I wouldn't of thought a 750t would be man enough to do clamp work but I guess it depends how quickly the grass is coming in.

680t/8095t have a fully opening door each side of the cab so they would be easier to get in the a 50 series with only one opening door. I've never been a fan of the 50 series after having a demo of a 750t. I bought a 580t at the time a felt it was a much better machine. I've now got an 8095t with the 105hp engine upgrade and this is a much better machine again.

I think if the main job was pushing up silage and it had to be a kramer I would be looking for a 880 as these seem to come up for handy money.

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[Sheep]

I wouldn't of thought a 750t would be man enough to do clamp work but I guess it depends how quickly the grass is coming in.

680t/8095t have a fully opening door each side of the cab so they would be easier to get in the a 50 series with only one opening door. I've never been a fan of the 50 series after having a demo of a 750t. I bought a 580t at the time a felt it was a much better machine. I've now got an 8095t with the 105hp engine upgrade and this is a much better machine again.

I think if the main job was pushing up silage and it had to be a kramer I would be looking for a 880 as these seem to come up for handy money.

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Pushing up silage won't be the main job, just an extra 20-30 hours a year and frees up a tractor for us also, would be nice to have.

The 750 was the direct replacement for 418, and if it boom suspension, AC and slightly faster hydraulics, it would be an ideal machine for us.

A 680/8095t would be the natural step, I'll just have to find one in the flesh to decide whether they are too cumbersome for climbing in and out of 10 times a day...

 

[Manney]

Why would a 8095t be any more difficult to get in than a 418 or 750t?

 

[Sheep]

Why would a 8095t be any more difficult to get in than a 418 or 750t?

The extra step(s). More of an issue for the older generation, but hopefully not noticeable.

 

[clayson]

We went from a 418 to a 750t. It’s such a versatile loader, we can get it in tight places other loaders wouldn’t even look at, but it’s still got bags of power and lift too, would go on clamp no bother especially with duals fitted. The boom suspension is handy for bucket brush stays level to ground, and like all past Kramer’s we’ve had it’s reliable. Don’t no what we’d change it for when the time comes.

 

[Barry7529]

We went from a 418 to a 750t. It’s such a versatile loader, we can get it in tight places other loaders wouldn’t even look at, but it’s still got bags of power and lift too, would go on clamp no bother especially with duals fitted. The boom suspension is handy for bucket brush stays level to ground, and like all past Kramer’s we’ve had it’s reliable. Don’t no what we’d change it for when the time comes.

Never realised you could fit dual wheels onto a kramer. Thought they would catch if you turned full lock. I've a 480 here and use it to put in our grass. It can struggle if the clamp gets too high but it's much better than using the tractor. Would definitely do a better job if duals could be fitted. Any pictures?

 

[clayson]

Sorry no we never had duals on ours, I should have written “if duals were fitted”. I’m sure on YouTube I’ve seen them duelled up on the front tho, but that could have been on the old rear steer ones

 

[Manney]

Yes there is a video on YouTube of a 680t with duals on a clamp. I will see if I can find it later.

 

[Manney]

 

[Salt'n'Pepper]

We have had 418t ,750t ,and now got the 2 door 30.8t.They are great tools around the yard,but don't carry so well in the field if conditions are soft(we are on 18inch industrial tyres to reduce height for buildings).Have used them on the clamp for over 35years,but not anymore as we now have a contractor doing the silage and can clear up to 150acres/day!
They are very slow to climb and stability on the steep ramps is poor,though duals would help a lot(will only fit on the front ,will foul the rear weight block).They do a great job on the clamp(was told by a feed rep he could always tell when a clamp was filled by a Kramer,because they were so well consolidated),can fill corners well and if your clamp is indoors,can squeeze in a lot more than a tractor/buckrake combo,but will struggle to keep up with a self-propelled chopper.Would probably be comfortable with about 35-40 acres per day.
Wouldn't be without ours,have over a dozen attachments for it.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Think 1st thing I'd do is open other end of clamp to fill and wall other end up looks like a bit of room at back in Field to put a pad to push straight up

 

[mf7480]

I think that confirm that no, you can’t clamp with a Kramer

 

[holywell farmer]

Think 1st thing I'd do is open other end of clamp to fill and wall other end up looks like a bit of room at back in Field to put a pad to push straight up

Fair play to that trailer man getting his load in a tight gap.

 

[Manney]

No trouble getting in, big door and good steps.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Fair play to that trailer man getting his load in a tight gap.

Yes did well but took extra time compared to a big pad up by where he comes in off road spin round tip and gone and then buckrake has a straight push up clamp. Maybe some reason it's not done like that hard to tell from video

 

[Fendt516profi]

Looked at video again and it may actually be open already

 

[Sheep]

Here's another angle

 

[Manney]

That's the video I was looking for.