Kuhn or Claas

Discussion in 'Machinery' started by GAM, Feb 2, 2019.

  1. Boohoo

    Boohoo Member

    Location:
    Newtownabbey
    That depends on the rotor diameter on the 4 rotor. I have a 4 rotor that has smaller rotors than some 6 rotor tedders, making it perfect for hay.
     
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  2. jpd

    jpd Member

    Location:
    rep of irl
    i think operation is as important as the machine
    given the right operator
    4 or 6 should do an equally good job
     
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  3. With the typical British weather being what it is, im not sure what a safe acreage is these days.
     
  4. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    With smaller rotors, the tunes are sweeping the ground more closely, for more of the working width. So yes, more, smaller rotors might be marginally better, but also considerably more expensive and more gearboxes to go wrong in the future.

    On a given budget, i’d Rather have a new 4 rotor than a used 6 rotor, or a newer 4 rotor rather than an older 6 rotor. Unless you are tedding lots of acres of course.
     
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  5. ffukedfarmer

    ffukedfarmer Member

    Location:
    West Kent
    I've just found this post from @Martin Holden which explains it very well.

    When I started out I could only afford a 4 rotor but if you can stretch your budget (or take advantage of finance deals) you would be best to get a small 6 rotor machine, something between 6 -7 metres.
     
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  6. oakleaf

    oakleaf Member

    Mine is 4 rotor. Takes 2 x 10 foot mower rows. Alot of 6 rotor machines use same size of rotor as the 4. One needs to check the specs carefully. It is incorrect to assume all 6 R machines have smaller diameter rotors than their 4 R counterparts.
     
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  7. jonny

    jonny Member

    Location:
    leitrim
    With a 4 rotor machine of any make on the first tedding you will have a wheel on each swarth with a 6 you will be straddling one and bringing one each side so it’s easier to clean the ground
     
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  8. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    Most of the manufacturers like to make claims on how many mower rows their Tedder will take. Surely an irrelevance in hay, for anything but the first pass?
     
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  9. hally

    hally Member

    Location:
    cumbria
    We used to have a 4 rotor Kuhn but it was a proper b*tch in heavy wet crops, so much so I’ve seen us head back into a field with a hand fork to level the big lumps before baling, now have a 6 rotor Lely and never had this problem and it will operate a a far faster forward speed.
     
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  10. oakleaf

    oakleaf Member

    It can even be irrelevant on the first pass too as some people do this at an angle to the mower anyway.
    I have tried this but seems to work better for me to follow mower initially.
     
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  11. oakleaf

    oakleaf Member

    I dont agree with this claim at all.
    Yes each wheel is on top of the swath but it doesnt matter cos rotors 1 & 2 and 3 & 4 are rotating into each other whereas the gap between the swaths is presented to rotors 2 & 3 which rotate away from each other.
     
  12. jonny

    jonny Member

    Location:
    leitrim
    Your land must be drier than mine
     
  13. oakleaf

    oakleaf Member

    Pure limestone here :D.
     
  14. jonny

    jonny Member

    Location:
    leitrim
    Bit boggier up here
     
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  15. kill

    kill Member

    Location:
    South West
    Very true if on wet ground as straddling a middle row is massively better if tedding 3x 3metre rows than driving on 2x 3 metre rows as mud is very damaging to stock
     
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  16. pgk

    pgk Member

    Location:
    south warwickshire
    Anyone any experience of sip spider 4 row tedder?
     
  17. Fendtbro

    Fendtbro Member

    I bought a 12 rotor Kuhn out of Italy a few years ago. Paid about 7.5k plus almost 2k shipping. Needed a fair bit of work even though only done 6 seasons. Must have turned most of Italy! Fantastic to use, spreads anything evenly and rips all lumps apart. totally stable on steep ground unlike the previous krone that rolled forwards out of work and missed the stuff. Output is amazing but the big difference is even drying in hay with very few green lumps at baling time as the small rotors caught almost everything on the first pass..
     
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  18. Boohoo

    Boohoo Member

    Location:
    Newtownabbey
    So since we've all agreed that small rotors are good, who's got the smallest? I'll start off at 4 rotors covering 4.6 metres.
     
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  19. homefarm

    homefarm Member

    Location:
    N.West
    KW 7.92/8 here. 8rotors 5 tine arms per rotor 7.9metres. Replaced lely 7.7m 6 rotor much better for hay haylage in my opinion.
     
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  20. GAM

    GAM Member

    I’ve decided to buy either a Kuhn GF642 6 rotor tedder, or the Massey Ferguson TD676, 6 rotor tedder.
     
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