Much worse! It was the best untreated although some of the other plots had mostly died from Brown rust so tricky to tell. However definitely not a 'no fungicide' variety as I have heard some people talk about it!
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KWS Extase
- Thread starter teslacoils
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Much worse! It was the best untreated although some of the other plots had mostly died from Brown rust so tricky to tell. However definitely not a 'no fungicide' variety as I have heard some people talk about it!
Being another s#@t miracles variety, like Cougar, Target, Warrior and some others I cant be bothered to remember, the odds have to be against it lasting long.
I'm out. Fed up of following get rich quick new wonder varieties that last about 2 years.
I'm out. Fed up of following get rich quick new wonder varieties that last about 2 years.
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- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
I was told Extase is going to be as early as Grafton
Extase seems to be a contradiction in terms because the further West one goes into bad septoria country the more the getting it planted early to avoid a late drilling disaster needs to become.
Extase doesn't really like this much, apparently.
What's needed here is a variety with very high septoria resistance and very slow development, which favours its very early planting.
That's why, although having ordered a couple of tonnes of Extase for trialling next time, we're still more than happy here with Exsept.
Extase doesn't really like this much, apparently.
What's needed here is a variety with very high septoria resistance and very slow development, which favours its very early planting.
That's why, although having ordered a couple of tonnes of Extase for trialling next time, we're still more than happy here with Exsept.
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FarmerBruce
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- Location
- Yorkshire
Anyone trying firefly? Or have any in the ground?
- Location
- South Notts
Hence why Graham is the second biggest wheat variety by area in the UK. You could but Gleam in that camp to.
Graham good, except doesn't stand like Exsept.
Never tried Gleam here - we'll get some ordered.
- Location
- S E Glos
Never had one of those, have we? However, Extase should cope with a £50-60/ha fungicide programme rather than £120-plus/ha some others will need.
- Location
- Darlington
They're alright if you get in and out before they break down, I'm more fed up of my old stalwart Grafton coming off the recommended list ;(
yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
I have some booked for autumn planting
I have some ordered ,has any body grown some this time
- Location
- North Kent, UK
Yes, I’ve got 40ha as a seed crop, growing it again this autumn. Not really able to give it a full appraisal yet. My Firefly is on a drought prone farm so looked stressed a month ago but has come back fairly well with the recent rain - got some big ears and is standing strong.
Hence nobody can ever really tell precisely to within the odd 100 tonnes or so when exactly to put up the "sold out".
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
Was talking to seed merchant the other week, they budget on 3 t/acre across the area of their seed crop that they can sell, if harvest turns out better then they can sell more
And if it turns out worse then they can supply less.
Once we had all our forward seed orders reduced by 40% due to force majeure.
What annoyed me was that our early orders placed in good faith in March were cut back by the same percentage as others' late orders placed in September which added the 40% tonnage for luck.
1976, I think.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_majeure
CORK
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- Location
- East Cork, Ireland
Growing some here in Ireland. So far, quite good Septoria, excellent straw strength. Some mildew in it.
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
It is looking pretty good in trials, I think the Septoria is going to be as good as Sundance so as good as the best available. Though the candidate may be slighlty better.
Rust resistance is pretty good ratings may come down a little with us. Maturity will be on the early side. Not sure it is as early as Grafton. No OWBM resistance as has been mentioned.
Standing ability - ok. Not the stiffest and not the weakest.
Yield potential - did very well last year in our trials and AHDB. I suspect it will get on the list a little behind Siskin and the top feed wheats.
With the very high Brown and Yellow Rust pressure this year - albeit not everywhere then most varieties have looked pretty poor in the untreated plots. And one or two will find their ratings dropping significantly.
Of the older varieties - Elicit, Siskin, Costello and Graham have held up pretty well..... in most places.
Supply, we estimate 7.5t/ha, cleaned, generally but do rate individual growers based on the historical yields. When we are sold out... and we are, we then run a 'Subject cleaned outturn' tonnage that we take orders on (and if we have it we contact the growers and see if they still want it).
Barry
Rust resistance is pretty good ratings may come down a little with us. Maturity will be on the early side. Not sure it is as early as Grafton. No OWBM resistance as has been mentioned.
Standing ability - ok. Not the stiffest and not the weakest.
Yield potential - did very well last year in our trials and AHDB. I suspect it will get on the list a little behind Siskin and the top feed wheats.
With the very high Brown and Yellow Rust pressure this year - albeit not everywhere then most varieties have looked pretty poor in the untreated plots. And one or two will find their ratings dropping significantly.
Of the older varieties - Elicit, Siskin, Costello and Graham have held up pretty well..... in most places.
Supply, we estimate 7.5t/ha, cleaned, generally but do rate individual growers based on the historical yields. When we are sold out... and we are, we then run a 'Subject cleaned outturn' tonnage that we take orders on (and if we have it we contact the growers and see if they still want it).
Barry
Trouble is we aren’t good enough in assessing what’s appropriate for the season. Every one shouting low disease this year and no need for a T1 and a cheap T2. Well it hasn’t turned out like that down here this year. Strong programmes still required.
I was told about Extase’s earliness too by a seed supplier. When wheats start to turn, I’ll be going back to the ‘June’ trials plots to have a final check between Grafton, Extase and candidate variety KWS Parkin. Parkin is the only other -1 maturity wheat apart from Grafton, it looked good in Hutchinson’s trials but easily the worst out of 38 in another only 5miles away. But in those trials the 2nd worst was Grafton, which just happens to look the best I’ve ever seen it at home: planted thicker than usual, and a heavier hit of early N, it looks so green that it’s almost glowing
But as an alternative to WB for an OSR entry I’m surprised it hasn’t been kept on the RL for a ‘specific use’, instead of adding another half dozen forgettable ‘indentikit’ wheats.
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