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KWS Extase

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
Being another s#@t miracles variety, like Cougar, Target, Warrior and some others I cant be bothered to remember, the odds have to be against it lasting long.
I'm out. Fed up of following get rich quick new wonder varieties that last about 2 years.
 
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bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
Extase seems to be a contradiction in terms because the further West one goes into bad septoria country the more the getting it planted early to avoid a late drilling disaster needs to become.

Extase doesn't really like this much, apparently.

What's needed here is a variety with very high septoria resistance and very slow development, which favours its very early planting.

That's why, although having ordered a couple of tonnes of Extase for trialling next time, we're still more than happy here with Exsept.
 
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BigBarl

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
South Notts
Extase seems to be a contradiction in terms because the further West one goes into bad septoria country the more the getting it planted early to avoid a late drilling disaster needs to become.

Extase doesn't really like this much, apparently.

What's needed here is a variety with very high septoria resistance and very slow development, which favours its very early planting.

That's why, although having ordered a couple of tonnes of Extase for trialling next time, we're still more than happy here with Exsept.

Hence why Graham is the second biggest wheat variety by area in the UK. You could but Gleam in that camp to.
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
Being another s#@t miracles variety, like Cougar, Target, Warrior and some others I cant be bothered to remember, the odds have to be against it lasting long.
I'm out. Fed up of following get rich quick new wonder varieties that last about 2 years.
They're alright if you get in and out before they break down, I'm more fed up of my old stalwart Grafton coming off the recommended list ;(
 

moretimeforgolf

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Kent, UK
I have some ordered ,has any body grown some this time
Yes, I’ve got 40ha as a seed crop, growing it again this autumn. Not really able to give it a full appraisal yet. My Firefly is on a drought prone farm so looked stressed a month ago but has come back fairly well with the recent rain - got some big ears and is standing strong.
 

bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
they budget on 3 t/acre across the area of their seed crop that they can sell, if harvest turns out better then they can sell more

And if it turns out worse then they can supply less.

Once we had all our forward seed orders reduced by 40% due to force majeure.

What annoyed me was that our early orders placed in good faith in March were cut back by the same percentage as others' late orders placed in September which added the 40% tonnage for luck.

1976, I think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_majeure
 

CORK

Member
Anyone trying firefly? Or have any in the ground?

Growing some here in Ireland. So far, quite good Septoria, excellent straw strength. Some mildew in it.

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Barry

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
It is looking pretty good in trials, I think the Septoria is going to be as good as Sundance so as good as the best available. Though the candidate may be slighlty better.

Rust resistance is pretty good ratings may come down a little with us. Maturity will be on the early side. Not sure it is as early as Grafton. No OWBM resistance as has been mentioned.

Standing ability - ok. Not the stiffest and not the weakest.

Yield potential - did very well last year in our trials and AHDB. I suspect it will get on the list a little behind Siskin and the top feed wheats.

With the very high Brown and Yellow Rust pressure this year - albeit not everywhere then most varieties have looked pretty poor in the untreated plots. And one or two will find their ratings dropping significantly.

Of the older varieties - Elicit, Siskin, Costello and Graham have held up pretty well..... in most places.

Supply, we estimate 7.5t/ha, cleaned, generally but do rate individual growers based on the historical yields. When we are sold out... and we are, we then run a 'Subject cleaned outturn' tonnage that we take orders on (and if we have it we contact the growers and see if they still want it).

Barry
 

An Gof

Member
Location
Cornwall
Why is there an attitude that either you don’t spend anything or you spend ludicrous amounts. Why not just what’s appropriate for the variety and season?

Trouble is we aren’t good enough in assessing what’s appropriate for the season. Every one shouting low disease this year and no need for a T1 and a cheap T2. Well it hasn’t turned out like that down here this year. Strong programmes still required.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
I was told Extase is going to be as early as Grafton
I'm more fed up of my old stalwart Grafton coming off the recommended list ;(
I was told about Extase’s earliness too by a seed supplier. When wheats start to turn, I’ll be going back to the ‘June’ trials plots to have a final check between Grafton, Extase and candidate variety KWS Parkin. Parkin is the only other -1 maturity wheat apart from Grafton, it looked good in Hutchinson’s trials but easily the worst out of 38 in another only 5miles away. But in those trials the 2nd worst was Grafton, which just happens to look the best I’ve ever seen it at home: planted thicker than usual, and a heavier hit of early N, it looks so green that it’s almost glowing :D
But as an alternative to WB for an OSR entry I’m surprised it hasn’t been kept on the RL for a ‘specific use’, instead of adding another half dozen forgettable ‘indentikit’ wheats.
 
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