Lab grown meat U.K

[Max Edwards]

The future is here! Gonna be out the business when this takes off. Probably be on our shelves within the next few years...

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[vantage]

Yeah, right.

 

[Banana Bar]

It’s coming, uncomfortable but coming nonetheless.

 

[unlacedgecko]

The growth medium is bovine fetal serum. That's made from the blood of prenatal calves obtained from the slaughter of pregnant cattle.

But don't worry, "most" of it is removed before eating

 

[melted welly]

Find these things bizarre.

on the one hand agriculture is castigated for its “industrialisation” ie removal of traditional natural husbandry techniques to be replaced by synthetic alternatives- chemicals, ferts along with much streamlined production methods resulting in lowering the price/value of food.

on the other hand, these energy hungry “alternatives” are touted as greener than green and the future, ending the link between nature and food.

is mankind really this arrogant?

We're understanding now that soil health is so much more than just replacing traditional husbandry techniques with varying grades of NPK blends, as plant nutrition and soil health is so much more complicated than that. Yet here’s products that are following that same basic path, replacing natural process with something that ticks most of the nutritional boxes.........

Then make up any deficiencies with industrially produced supplements no doubt......

I’m only seeing one set of winners here and it isn’t going to be consumers.

@Max Edwards Are you actually joined for any debate or discussion or just started this thread under a new name having started several on this theme before under other aliases to get some sound bytes for an article, to guage farmers reactions, or purely for trolling purpose coz you’re on furlough/finished uni and are bored? George?

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

Find these things bizarre.

on the one hand agriculture is castigated for its “industrialisation” ie removal of traditional natural husbandry techniques to be replaced by synthetic alternatives- chemicals, ferts along with much streamlined production methods resulting in lowering the price/value of food.

on the other hand, these energy hungry “alternatives” are touted as greener than green and the future, ending the link between nature and food.

is mankind really this arrogant?

We're understanding now that soil health is so much more than just replacing traditional husbandry techniques with varying grades of NPK blends, as plant nutrition and soil health is so much more complicated than that. Yet here’s products that are following that same basic path, replacing natural process with something that ticks most of the nutritional boxes.........

Then make up any deficiencies with industrially produced supplements no doubt......

I’m only seeing one set of winners here and it isn’t going to be consumers.

@Max Edwards Are you actually joined for any debate or discussion or just started this thread under a new name having started several on this theme before under other aliases to get some sound bytes for an article, to guage farmers reactions, or purely for trolling purpose coz you’re on furlough/finished uni and are bored? George?

I'm not so sure it's about arrogance and being green but more to do with a desperate, all-pervasive fear of death, which is endemic in developed societies and which must be avoided at all costs. You only have to look at the current economic mess over covid19 to see that.

It's indisputable that eating meat is good for humans but other creatures have to die for us to do that which is messy and distressing to most people who have grown up accustomed to rows of chunks of plastic wrapped meat in shiny supermarkets, so far away from the reality of the once warm furry animal. How many people enjoy a Sunday roast of whatever variety and expect it as part of being a civilised society but would be emotionally unable to kill a rabbit or watch while their beef was killed for them?

Hopefully there'll be some side-effect to eating this artificial protein that renders humans infertile because we do not deserve to survive as a species if we carry on as we are. The urban 'afraid of the dark' sort of people are becoming the majority in the developed world and it would take a huge societal collapse to reset things back to normal for an apex predator mammalian species which we are. People like us on TFF who have an understanding of the circle of life in the countryside are a dying breed.

 

[melted welly]

I'm not so sure it's about arrogance and being green but more to do with a desperate, all-pervasive fear of death, which is endemic in developed societies and which must be avoided at all costs. You only have to look at the current economic mess over covid19 to see that.

It's indisputable that eating meat is good for humans but other creatures have to die for us to do that which is messy and distressing to most people who have grown up accustomed to rows of chunks of plastic wrapped meat in shiny supermarkets, so far away from the reality of the once warm furry animal. How many people enjoy a Sunday roast of whatever variety and expect it as part of being a civilised society but would be emotionally unable to kill a rabbit or watch while their beef was killed for them?

Hopefully there'll be some side-effect to eating this artificial protein that renders humans infertile because we do not deserve to survive as a species if we carry on as we are. The urban 'afraid of the dark' sort of people are becoming the majority in the developed world and it would take a huge societal collapse to reset things back to normal for an apex predator mammalian species which we are. People like us on TFF who have an understanding of the circle of life in the countryside are a dying breed.

I don’t generally watch “fantasy” films but my wife had me watch “the hunger games” and there’s a bit of that society ringing true with what we’ve created. The metropolitan “well to do” with their plastic faces and high speed rail links playing with the lives of the regions was one that was a bit close to home.

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

I don’t generally watch “fantasy” films but my wife had me watch “the hunger games” and there’s a bit of that society ringing true with what we’ve created. The metropolitan “well to do” with their plastic faces and high speed rail links playing with the lives of the regions was one that was a bit close to home.

I offer you as tribute

 

[DaveGrohl]

Yum yum.

 

[jondear]

I will have a bucket load !mmmmmmm

 

[Top Tip.]

I find it interesting that GM foods were portrayed as Frankenstein foods but meat grown in a vat from a starter culture of bovine foetal serum is somehow ok.

 

[TripleSix]

I can't see it having much flavour unless it's artificially flavoured.

We all know what the beast eats affects the flavour of the meat

 

[Hampton]

I can't see it having much flavour unless it's artificially flavoured.

We all know what the beast eats affects the flavour of the meat

Of course it will be artificially flavoured. it’s artificially grown, so a bit of flavour won’t bother them.

 

[TripleSix]

I notice the article on cultured meat on Wikipedia seems to have been written by a vegan.
Only one fleeting reference to growth hormones

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Never has the phrase "you are what you eat" been more apt.
So I expect that these products might be attractive to artificial vacuous people, of which there are many.

 

[Chasingmytail]

how on earth do they upscale these things into mass manufacture without enormous factories? They may have a very small specimen but they aint going to feed the wealthy of this country. I dont understand how this is for sale then.

 

[melted welly]

I offer you as tribute

Don’t think I’d last 5 minutes, too slow and creaky now!

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

Don’t think I’d last 5 minutes, too slow and creaky now!

Me neither. Best we could hope for is a quick dispatch

 

[GeorgeC1]

I'm not so sure it's about arrogance and being green but more to do with a desperate, all-pervasive fear of death, which is endemic in developed societies and which must be avoided at all costs. You only have to look at the current economic mess over covid19 to see that.

It's indisputable that eating meat is good for humans but other creatures have to die for us to do that which is messy and distressing to most people who have grown up accustomed to rows of chunks of plastic wrapped meat in shiny supermarkets, so far away from the reality of the once warm furry animal. How many people enjoy a Sunday roast of whatever variety and expect it as part of being a civilised society but would be emotionally unable to kill a rabbit or watch while their beef was killed for them?

Hopefully there'll be some side-effect to eating this artificial protein that renders humans infertile because we do not deserve to survive as a species if we carry on as we are. The urban 'afraid of the dark' sort of people are becoming the majority in the developed world and it would take a huge societal collapse to reset things back to normal for an apex predator mammalian species which we are. People like us on TFF who have an understanding of the circle of life in the countryside are a dying breed.

Nothing wrong with being not willing to watch animals being slaughtered, I eat meat but I don't like to think about the animal that has been slaughtered to eat it and push for humane methods, but many don't eat meat for that reason and fair play.

It doesn't mean that society is ending, just means quality of life is increasing to the point where we don't have to slaughter our own animals to eat.

That era of "a dying breed" saw huge levels of infant mortality pre-vaccines, treatable illnesses, pee poor working conditions and poverty - Just because we mostly conquered those doesn't mean we stopped being human imo.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Nothing wrong with being not willing to watch animals being slaughtered, I eat meat but I don't like to think about the animal that has been slaughtered to eat it and push for humane methods, but many don't eat meat for that reason and fair play.

It doesn't mean that society is ending, just means quality of life is increasing to the point where we don't have to slaughter our own animals to eat.

That era of "a dying breed" saw huge levels of infant mortality pre-vaccines, treatable illnesses, pee poor working conditions and poverty - Just because we mostly conquered those doesn't mean we stopped being human imo.

There are very few, if any people who want to see animals slaughtered, it is the distancing from reality which has lead to a serious lack of understanding and appreciation of what is natural.
The huge levels of infant mortality pre-vaccines, treatable illnesses, pee poor working conditions and poverty gave people a respect for life that many just simply don't appreciate now.
Death, punishment and defecation are all performed out of sight and out of mind but the practicalities of them all still have to be dealt with by somebody.
You would be shocked at how many animals and insects lost their lives so you can eat a vegan product. A steak would probably have created many lives for the loss of one.